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john1124 wrote:“This law may be unconstitutional too. “
Thats what im thinking. Our Savier might be the Judicial System. As well, im sure the ACLU will be getting involved in this some way with their pack of lawyers! All it will take is one of the Supreme Court Justices to shoot this bill down as unconstitutional.
Let us not forget who is on the Supreme Court. Our friend in the White House put 3 of his cronies in the Court over the last 6 years……
dhayman, I have Thomas or O’Conner in mind to possibly start this fight!
Led wrote:Look at page 222 “Interstate Transactions”
I interpret that the bill leaves the door open to legalizing internet gambling.I believe that this was meant to address the concerns of some states looking to offer horse racing and lottery tickets online
Question:
Who will benefit financially from this legislation?
anyone who runs a landbased casino possibly?
Engineer wrote:As far as I can tell, NETeller and similar electronic wallets aren’t affected by this law. Then WHY does the article also say “Most forms of Internet gambling would be banned under a bill that received final U.S. congressional approval early Saturday.”??????? WHAT ???????
I guess it makes a much better story that way.
People can’t seem to agree on what it actually means… but I will say this. If law enforcement wants to nail people to the wall, then they will.
Most people already break several laws per day. I’m sure I jaywalked yesterday, and I probably took a dog outside with no leash. There’s no doubt I surpassed an artificially low speed limit at least once… probably several times.
I expect that people will break this law too. Will people jump through one extra hoop to continue playing poker? Of course they will. People have to be under the threat of severe punishment to obey stupid laws. Look how much drug use there is, and there’s definitely a threat of severe punishment.
We’ll have to see what effect this will have on the players. This could just be another dumb law that people routinely break.
Quote:Question:Who will benefit financially from this legislation?
Land based casinos in the US will be looking at ENORMOUS profits. Think about it. First the online casinos and poker rooms train millions of fresh new YOUNG gamblers and get them hooked on poker. Many of these young people spends hours everyday playing poker, they eat sleep and dream the game. Then when they feel like they have reached maximum saturation of the market WHAM! you take away access to the online poker rooms! These kids are basically addicted, do you think they will give up the games they love?
Nope, they drive however many hours it takes to reach a land based, tribal or Riverboat Casino to satisfy that need! The casino operators clean up!
Shit they even tipped us off with statements like “Online gambling is as addictive as Crack!”
Maybe this was the plan all along! It’s so fucking sinister and plausible that It wouldnt shock me if there was a lot of truth hiding in there some where. :madat:
Any bill can be passed by Congress but that doesn’t make it permanent. All it takes is for someone to contest the legality of the law. That’s why we have the Supreme Court; to stop fanatic acts like this. But this takes money and time and if the law is upheld, you can bet Congress will go in and carve really big chunks out of our rights.
I don’t think they have any intentions of enforcing this law as it stands right now, but once you have a law on the books, its much easier to pass other laws or take liberties based on the interpretation of that law.
I don’t believe Congress will ever take the steps necessary to repeal the law; it’s going to be left up to the Supreme Court and then only if it’s contested.
I’m curious as to what the online casinos actions if any are going to be regarding players in the US.
This a BS addendum to a bill which was absolutely needed to give teeth to the laws governing the security of the united states. This portion of the bill will be contested for certain and probably out here on the left coast through the 9th circut court of appeals, the most liberal leaning circut court the US has.
I believe that internet gamblers will find a way around this probably through an offshore middle man bank.
I also think that not only will this be contested by the lobbysts for banks AND the large land based US casinos. Those casinos have wanted to legalize and regulate the online gaming industry because then they could come in with their established brands and create trustworthy online casinos and take a huge market share away from the offshore casinos. They would mush prefer to have gamblers who can wake up in the middle of the night in their own homes & drop a hundred bucks every few nights than force that player to have to drive or fly (spending gfambling money getting to their casinos) and see that player once a month or less. The other aspect as to why the large vegas casinos would want online gaming to pass in the US is that they can start to take back market share which they have lost to the tribal / indian casinos which are much more accessible to many players especially in demographically rich areas like California.
I think this is a bump in the road that so far has no teeth and will be contested on many fronts.
Liberals seeking office in 5 weeks should use this to their advantage to show how fractured the republicans are on this seriousness in attending to the issue of national security.
I don’t think this will stop your players, it may stop a few but not many. If you were to do a poll I bet most of the players online would admit that they already assumed online gambling was not legal, but they do it anyway…..
It is almost like a teenager tell them they can’t do something, they will go do it anyway just to show you they can!
I believe in our partners and I think they will find a way around this and so will the online wallets.
Business as usual for me PLUS a bit more site buildings in other affiliate industries like the Professor said, make sure your built up to take a hit. I see this as a good thing for us also becuase like someone mention, no more tv ads, no more radio, we will be going back to getting flat fees for banners etc.
Goldfinger wrote:There will be a way for US gamblers to transfer money.
Do you wish to aid and abet an illegal act? I am not convinced that it will but if by chance this bill turns out to be an affective ban on gambling, then I would expect all honest webmasters will be obeying the law. If you dont youre no different than the guy on the corner peddeling illegal drugs. The aiding and abetting approach is what the DOJ has been pushing for, now they have set up a law which will permit them to use it even more.Trey wrote:Liberals seeking office in 5 weeks should use this to their advantage to show how fractured the republicans are on this seriousness in attending to the issue of national security.
Exactly right, they left off planes, trains, buses and other like devices but added on gambling funding enforcement. Yep that addition is much more important than the omitted ones with regard to personal safety against terrorism. Not one of those F’rs deserves to be in office, not one. They dont represent their constituents they represent themselves.Eating my words:
I just found out and need to study thread and law, so no comments yet.
cowboy wrote:Question:Who will benefit financially from this legislation?
Offshore banks and alternative banking come to mind.
US banks must be pissed.
I find it interesting that CNN or no other news agency’s have ran a story on the passing of this bill. They just passed what amounts to Prohibition of the 21th Century and Yahoo,CNN has not put it on their front page. Wonder why?
This guy is considering a presidential run? I hope people there in US don’t forget, and elect an even worse president, lol!
Lets see what will happen to usual gambling gateways like neteller. I mean their stocks…
