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allfreechips wrote:the providing a html link to a gamling site can be seen as illegal is my issue
I agree. I think the lawmakers snuck this in as a back up in case (and very likely) they have problems with the banking part of the bill. I think the ACLU will have a field day with these provisions in the bill that go after ISP’s and webmasters that promote gambling sites. I think it is weak and heavy handed. Think of the millions of people who pass the time playing their favorite games(bingo,poker,cribbage, etc) for free. Most of these free gaming sites have links to casinos or are provided by casinos. Look @ pogo.com. 100’s of thousands play there. These sites are just going to fold up? These thousands of players are just going to bend over and find another form of entertainment? I think if the AOLs of the world block the gaming sites then they lose a lot of customers.
Look how large the poker industry has grown in the last ten years. This growth is not just because of popular shows such as Celebrity Poker etc. It is because the millions who love these shows can also play for free online. Do you think the poker industry that is making billions is not going to throw millions @ attorneys to protect their industry?
This bill’s hypocrisy stink couldn’t be any higher, especially the provisions protecting their interests (horse racing and Indian gaming, not to mention the absurd move of attaching it to port security, this alone is going raise a lot of eyebrows). Think of Prohibition, what if they said Kentucky and Texas are exempt, because our cronies still have heavy interests in liquor there? Yeah that would have went over well.
I could be wrong but I think that the way this bill was written, how it was attached to port security and the obvious hypocrisy could ultimately backfire on them. It is open to many attacks, no? Wouldn’t they have been better off making it a straight banking/gambling bill, with no protections of their interests, didn’t go after ISP’s etc., and that stood alone-not on the back of national security (being a good patriot) bill?
Just my biased opinon.
It really kills me when governments don’t deal with the real issues at hand and they try to deceive the public by trying to make something else the scape goat. The real issue shouldn’t be online gambling, it is the Iraq War and the debt that it is creating for every American citizen.
I wrote an article back in July about the Internet Gambling Prohibitin Act and the American Government. I would hope that other webmasters would add this article as a must read for visitors and players to their online gambling websites. The following is the link where this article may be read or downloaded from goarticles.com
http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=231316As a Canadian I find the American people are our best neighbors. I feel that the present Bush Government has one agenda and that is to do whatever they want regardless of the rights of the citizens.
I do recommend that you read the above article and find out what the Bush government has placed you in debt due to the Iraq War. Internet Gambling has not created a National Debt in the United States, the Iraq War has and the costs are greater than ever expected.
May this issue be contested and won with the American Government, and may the Bush Administration and his Republicans be gone from power in the next election. Republicans are usually not that bad, just Bush and some of his Crooks are the problem.
Best of Luck
Barry Ohman
http://www.best-online-casinos-and-gambling-bonuses.com
http://www.online-gambling-and-sports-betting-advice.comProfessor wrote:Land based casinos in the US will be looking at ENORMOUS profits. Think about it. First the online casinos and poker rooms train millions of fresh new YOUNG gamblers and get them hooked on poker. Many of these young people spends hours everyday playing poker, they eat sleep and dream the game. :madat:There is a lot of truth in your statement but can the supply meet the demand? The face of gambling has changed immensely in the last 10 years. The appetite is so huge now because of the internet and the big Vegas casinos started to realize this about 5 years ago and have been prepping themselves for the internet.
How about the thousands who can’t reach, for one reason or another, a land based casino?
Then there are the millions who are addicted to the free games and have no interest in placing a bet. They are just going to accept that right taken away from them? This legislation will effect them at some level.
The Republicans have just unleashed an army of millions of poker players that will hit the polls in November.
Good bye, Grand Old Pedophiles !!
You might consider that a few of the land based casinos were going to launch on the internet soon. Also, a major sponsor was the NFL (2 faced, yuh). Are you supporting them by watching their games?
@axl]slotplayer the wire act covered telephones, not the Internet wireless or otherwise! The republicans attempted to modify the wire act but they failed; at least thus far. The latest bill only address banking institutions and the funding of online gaming accounts via those intruments. After several readings I dont see anything IMO that bans online gambling.[/QUOTE wrote:
Sounds good, but the Wire Act clearly defines the term “wire communication facility”.
The term “wire communication facility” means any and all instrumentalities, personnel, and services (among other things, the receipt, forwarding, or delivery of communications) used or useful in the transmission of writings, signs, pictures, and sounds of all kinds by aid of wire, cable, or other like connection between the points of origin and reception of such transmission.
Where it gets cloudy is the term “sporting event” or “contest” where it is not clearly defined. A narrow interpretation would seem to suggest that the phrase is limited to sports-related activities only.
As the indians ride their championship quarter horses onto the Strip to place their bets . . . I will be visiting my local bank to apply for a job (I am certain they will be filling new positions soon) and while I am there I will withdraw all my money and stuff it under my mattress where I pack my heat and then let them try to take it away from me or tell me what I can do with it. The Brady law is still in effect isn’t it?:shooter:
Has anyone looked at what the polls are suggesting for 2006 ?
http://www.pollingreport.com/2006.htm
http://www.pollingreport.com/2006a.htm
:shakebutt Republican PartyThe current administration in the U.S. lives in an fantasy world. Their National, congressional,legislative,social, and pseudomoralistic plagues the current administration.
Never before have I seen a Government proclaim to be the “world’s best and largest democracy” and rule with a totaltarian stick. The U.S should just scrap the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The U.S is a far cry from being a free society.
Is this the model of Democracy the U.S would like the world to convert to? What a disgusting distortion of true democracy. Demos cratica, Greek for democracy, perhaps the U.S Government should relearn from the origins of democracy. What is next have the Church run the country!
Geeze they are even taking away your natural rights as well if this bill goes. I am disgusted beyond reproach and thankful I live elsewhere.
greek39
Greek,
As an American, I agree with you totally. The unfortunate part, is that you are going to feel as negative an impact from this (and it will be harsh), as us Americans. We will all lose our American business, which is the mainstay of our incomes.
Like I’ve been saying on this board for a while, time to diversify (and quickly !).
DHayman
A Greek friend of mine explained to me the origins of democracy in ancient Greece like this: A crowd would gather at the market and people would take turns to get up on wooden boxes and voice their opinions and the one who yelled the loudest was right :tounge2:
Goldfinger wrote:A Greek friend of mine explained to me the origins of democracy in ancient Greece like this: A crowd would gather at the market and people would take turns to get up on wooden boxes and voice their opinions and the one who yelled the loudest was right :tounge2:the actual term “democracy” comes from two words, “demon”-“creation”, which form the word, and the meaning is to create evil, regardless of your views on what you believe a democracy is, this is the underlying intention behind it
forget everything you think you know and join me
nick777 wrote:the actual term “democracy” comes from two words, “demon”-“creation”, which form the word, and the meaning is to create evil, regardless of your views on what you believe a democracy is, this is the underlying intention behind itforget everything you think you know and join me
I agree with you 100%. People are so blind to see the obvious though.
:rolleyes:
aleph wrote:I agree with you 100%. People are so blind to see the obvious though.:rolleyes:
It’s more of a fear, people don’t want to believe some things, no matter how obvious, they instead choose to turn away from them, much like the “Fight or Flight” principle, unfortunately this is a character trait which is extremely hard to change, like the elephant tied to a pole by a piece of rope, he can break away so easily but has been conditioned from a young age to believe he can’t, so he doesnt even try
