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Will be interesting to see the reactions of the well known Aff. Programs.
Anyway I can’t see good companies making too much financial & banking architecture to keep US players in their portfolios.
Maybe a small business in the future wit EU and Asia players.
Don’t let panic take over.
Im sure the software providers and ecash companies have already in place a way round this, if they havent more fool them.
Neteller for example could sell invisible apples from an online store for $100 each and you get a free $100 in casino chips for whatever casino u choose.
You havent bought casino chips or bought from an online gaming site you have simply bought an invisible apple from an online store and got some free chips.Their are a million ways round this situation, Im sure everyone is shocked it gets piggy backed on national security do they really think ( of course they dont) online casinos = terrorists? Tell that to Richard Branson he of virgin airlines fame oh and virgin casino fame. ( wonder if he will get arrested one day soon lol)
I think it all boils down to religion and politics, and people shouldnt have religious views ie anti gambling ones forced onto them.
Yes there are a million ways round it – just as there are a million ways of getting round illegal drug restrictions.
I’m interested in learning what the end result will be on this.
I find it hard to believe that the U.S. government is going to be able
to effectively prevent citizens from gambling at online casinos. The U.S.
government isn’t very good at solving problems. I fail to remember anything
that they’ve accomplished over the past year to actually help the people.It would be nice to know how much time it takes for a bill to go from
being signed by the president to actually becoming an enforcable law.I guess that I might have to move to a tropical climate for awhile.
Ok, I was reading all your posts guys, I’m scared for my future, but I want to share with you the experience that we had in Italy from the beginning of this year.
Our government was banning the online gambling from the other jurisdiction on february (basically all the online gambling websites). To do that phisically they was obscuring something like 1200 gambling websites (a few % of the total sites), mostly from online casinos, a few from affiliates. The day after this fact all the biggest gambling companies that had italian players, italian versions of the websites and affiliates that was promoting casinos for Italy, was just changing their urls by a redirect code that was pointing on new domains, and this just because all of those companies are completely legal on their jurisdictions, they don’t have problems with local laws. The conversion rate of italian players didn’t change at all (maybe a little in the first days when it wasn’t all done with the new settings). From that moment promoting online gambling from Italy was illegal and is still illegal now, but nothing changed, even if you consider that italian law aren’t “light” when they want you to respect them.The poin is only one…Internet! How do you suppose to stop the peoples that want to navigate on the web? How do you suppose to track the peoples that work from a country (yeah, you may ask from the isp all the uploading sessions, for what? I’m using a proxy baby and even I’m working for India…so? What do you suppose would happen? You will find a way to do that safetly like I did, changes are normal!). Well, the result is that in Italy nothing was changed but the law, that from january of the next year will make all legal also for external operators, for that reason I just want to suggest to remain calm, and if you feel like me that this is not fair (they do that only because they don’t get money from this), just don’t stop to make your job, take some precautions, hide your identity, as Morgan just says: “Their are a million ways round this situation” I’m not living in the USA, but I know that the way to make new laws is not so different, and if this one will not work as they want, they will change it, because the reason is the same for every governement: THEY DON’T GET A CENT FROM YOUR MONEY!
Again, being optimistic, I can’t see bank executives and ISP executives getting up Monday morning all fired up to enforce this. It will be more difficult than Alcohol prohibition. I just think we need to calm down until things become more clear this week. This law may be unconstitutional too. Blocking free access to websites is a tricky situation. Remember the Communications Decency Act was struck down as unconstitutional. That was to ban kiddie porn. And I don’t think there were many pro-kiddie porn lobbyists out there.
detordiggei, do you actually have Italian content sites or just the English ones in your sig?
Goldfinger wrote:detordiggei, do you actually have Italian content sites or just the English ones in your sig? Both contents without any problem, if you browse the websites you will find italian contents, I also have italian language only websites that are not on my sig.Don’t know why everyone is in panic mode, nothing much has changed. Online Gambling has always been in a gray area and will continue to do so, we don’t know the full extent of this situation yet. When Professor said that he thought that isps had already tested a filter i think that was something else because i rememer it and i had problems accessing gambling sites and also ebay and other sites and i’m in the UK. It would be pointless for isps to even try because there are very easy ways around there filters and they can not block every website that contains a gambling link or gambling keyword. If everyone wants to stay in panic mode thats fine, less competition for me.
I can’t find the actual bill. Can someone post a link. I found the port security bill, but I can’t find this stuff mentioned in it.
BJF wrote:I can’t find the actual bill. Can someone post a link. I found the port security bill, but I can’t find this stuff mentioned in it.I think its on page 213 of the port security bill.
“This law may be unconstitutional too. “
Thats what im thinking. Our Savier might be the Judicial System. As well, im sure the ACLU will be getting involved in this some way with their pack of lawyers! All it will take is one of the Supreme Court Justices to shoot this bill down as unconstitutional.
BJF wrote:I can’t find the actual bill. Can someone post a link. I found the port security bill, but I can’t find this stuff mentioned in it.http://www.rules.house.gov/109_2nd/text/hr4954cr/hr49543_portscr.pdf
Page 213.
More likely the HUGE law firms in New York retained by PartyPoker and other big gaming companies that will push this into the courts. Then these Republican scumbags can’t whine about the liberal ACLU making our children unsafe, blah, blah, blah. We should be more worried about our kids being near Republican congressmen from Florida. Dumb fucks.
http://www.rules.house.gov/109_2nd/text/hr4954cr/hr49543_portscr.pdf
Look at page 222 “Interstate Transactions”
I interpret that the bill leaves the door open to legalizing internet gambling.
