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I see that you have listed only Senators. It is a good idea to call and let them know your displeasure about this, but not quite panic time.
If the Senate passes this bill, then the House will also have to pass the bill. Then a Conference Committee will have to meet to make both bills exactly the same!! At which time, both the Senate and the House will again have to pass the bill, before it can go to Dubya to be signed into law.
All of this will have to take place before adjournment for elections. If this bill is passed by the Senate, there is still time to launch a well thought out campaign.
A nice story about a homo kiddie diddling congressman
WASHINGTON – Rep. Mark Foley (news, bio, voting record), R-Fla., resigned from Congress on Friday, effective immediately, in the wake of questions about e-mails he wrote a former teenage male page.
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“I am deeply sorry and I apologize for letting down my family and the people of Florida I have had the privilege to represent,” he said in a statement issued by his office.
The two-sentence statement did not refer to the e-mails and gave no reason for Foley’s abrupt decision to abandon a flourishing career in Congress.
Foley, 52, had been a shoo-in for a new term until the e-mail correspondence surfaced in recent days.
His resignation comes less than six weeks before the elections and further complicates the political landscape for Republicans, who are fighting to retain control of Congress. Democrats need to win a net of 15 Republican seats to regain the power they lost in 1994.
Florida Republicans planned to meet as soon as Monday to name a replacement in Foley’s district, which President Bush won with 55 percent in 2004 and is now in play for November. Though Florida ballots have already been printed with Foley’s name and cannot be changed, any votes for Foley will count toward the party’s choice.
Campaign aides had previously acknowledged that the Republican congressman e-mailed the former Capitol page five times, but had said there was nothing inappropriate about the exchange. The page was 16 at the time of the e-mail correspondence.
The page worked for Rep. Rodney Alexander (news, bio, voting record), R-La., who said Friday that when he learned of the e-mail exchanges 10 to 11 months ago, he called the teen’s parents. Alexander added, “We also notified the House leadership that there might be a potential problem.”
House Speaker Dennis Hastert said he had asked the chairman of the House’s page board, Rep. John Shimkus (news, bio, voting record), R-Ill., to investigate the page system. “We want to make sure that all our pages are safe and the page system is safe,” Hastert said.
He said Foley submitted the letter of resignation to Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and submitted a copy to him. A House clerk read Foley’s resignation on the House floor.
“He’s done the right thing,” Hastert said. Asked if the chain of events was disturbing, he said, “None of us are very happy about it.”
ABC News reported Friday that Foley also engaged in a series of sexually explicit instant messages with current and former teenage male pages. In one message, ABC said, Foley wrote to one page: “Do I make you a little horny?”
Foley, as chairman of the Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus, had introduced legislation in July to protect children from exploitation by adults over the Internet. He also sponsored other legislation designed to protect minors from abuse and neglect.
“We track library books better than we do sexual predators,” Foley has said.
Foley, who represents an area around Palm Beach County, e-mailed the page in August 2005. The page had worked for Alexander and Foley asked him how he was doing after Hurricane Katrina and what he wanted for his birthday. The congressman also asked the boy to send a photo of himself, according to excerpts of the e-mails that were originally released by ABC News.
Foley’s aides initially blamed Democratic rival Tim Mahoney and Democrats with attempting to smear the congressman before the election.
The e-mails were posted Friday on Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington’s Web site after ABC News reported their existence. The group asked the House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct to investigate the exchange Foley had with the boy.
“The House of Representatives has an obligation to protect the teenagers who come to Congress to learn about the legislative process,” the group wrote, adding that the committee, “must investigate any allegation that a page has been subjected to sexual advances by members of the House.”
In 2003, Foley faced questions about his sexual orientation as he prepared to run for Sen. Bob Graham (news, bio, voting record)’s seat. At a news conference in May of that year, he said he would not comment on rumors he was gay. He later decided not to seek the Senate seat to care for his parents.
According to the CREW posting, the boy e-mailed a colleague in Alexander’s office about Foley’s e-mails, saying, “This freaked me out.” On the request for a photo, the boy repeated the word “sick” 13 times.
He said Foley asked for his e-mail when the boy gave him a thank you card. The boy also said Foley wrote that he e-mailed another page.
“he’s such a nice guy,” Foley wrote about the other boy. “acts much older than his age…and hes in really great shape…i am just finished riding my bike on a 25 mile journey now heading to the gym…whats school like for you this year?”
In other e-mails, Foley wrote, “I am back in Florida now…its nice here…been raining today…it sounds like you will have some fun over the next few weeks…how old are you now?” and “how are you weathering the hurricane…are you safe…send me an email pic of you as well.”
What the boy wrote to Foley, who is single, wasn’t available. The e-mails were sent from Foley’s personal account, which Foley spokesman Jason Kello says he uses to communicate with many people, including Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.
Efforts to reach the boy were unsuccessful, but he told the St. Petersburg Times last November, “I thought it was very inappropriate. After the one about the picture, I decided to stop e-mailing him back.” The Times didn’t publish the comments until Friday.
Alexander said the boy notified a staffer in his office about the e-mails and promptly called the boy’s parents.
“My concern then was the young man’s interests and the parents’ interests,” Alexander said. “We weren’t trying to protect anybody except the parents. … They told me they were comfortable with it and didn’t want to pursue anything, didn’t want to talk about it anymore.”
Foley was a member of the Republican leadership, serving as a deputy whip. He also was a member of the House Ways and Means Committee.
Florida Republican Party lawyers were reviewing the process to pick a replacement. Party Chairwoman Carole Jean Jordan said she hopes a replacement will be chosen by Monday. Among the possibilities was state Rep. Joe Negron, who was a candidate for attorney general before dropping out of the race to avoid a primary with former Rep. Bill McCollum.
“It would be very time sensitive so the nominee would have the opportunity to get around the district and campaign in a very short amount of time,” Jordan said.
David Johnson, a former state Republican chairman who worked as a strategist for Foley, said it will be difficult for the party’s pick to win with Foley’s name on the ballot.
On Foley, Jordan said, “Congressman Foley served as my congressman. He’s given a great deal of time and effort and extreme good hard work to the state of Florida. I just so appreciate all the things he’s done over the years.”
Mahoney, a Republican who became a Democrat last year, is chairman and chief operating officer of a $1 billion-a-year financial services company. In his House bid, he has focused on Washington corruption and oversized deficits.
In 1983, the House censured two lawmakers — Daniel Crane of Illinois and Gerry Studds of Massachusetts — for having improper relationships with pages.
The page program is for high school students who study at a congressional school while also carrying out tasks for lawmakers.
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Associated Press Writers Brendan Farrington in Florida and Natasha Metzler in Washington contributed to this report.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060929/ap_on_go_co/congressman_e_mails
also have to pass the bill
Hi AS,
I’m not sure on this.:confused:
The bill has passed the house already, and only minor modifications were supposedly made to it. So if it gets past the Senate, the House will just be a formality vote.
This is once again, a sneaky tactic, and if Frist does attach it, we may have trouble.
They are racing around as I write this trying to pass bills, and what happens is all of the sudden, the BIPARTISON spirit comes to life so they can all get the hell out of dodge. Sad but that’s what is happening.Unless some Senator puts his foot down to prevent it from being attached up front like Warner did last week, we may have a problem.
I’d say we’ll know by about 1 am!:unhappy:
Damn crooked asses. :shooter:
Tell me what I can do with my own god damn money in my own god damn home. Freedom my ass! What a fucking load of shit! If you have money in Neteller or other online payment facilities you might want to get it out while you can.
Amateur wrote:I see that you have listed only Senators. It is a good idea to call and let them know your displeasure about this, but not quite panic time.If the Senate passes this bill, then the House will also have to pass the bill. Then a Conference Committee will have to meet to make both bills exactly the same!! At which time, both the Senate and the House will again have to pass the bill, before it can go to Dubya to be signed into law.
All of this will have to take place before adjournment for elections. If this bill is passed by the Senate, there is still time to launch a well thought out campaign.
Sorry, I wish this was true, but it’s not. The House will vote on this bill tonight, and this isn’t a “could go either way” kinda thing. It will pass. It’s a Port Security bill. It will pass. The Senate will then vote on it. It will pass. Bill Frist worked his pathetic ass off to get this language in something, ANYTHING before the elections, and he has done it. This is pretty much the end, as in, enjoy the next six-twelve hours and pray for a miracle. I know a lot of people here think people have been crying wolf for years, but the wolf is here. Updates here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=law
SulkyGirl wrote:I know a lot of people here think people have been crying wolf for years, but the wolf is here.All they have done is cry loud its never going to happen, it will fail, I told you so, now it appears the fat lady is about to sing her tune.
What an absolute abuse of the system if the anti-gambling stuff goes through piggybacking on a defence bill. I have a difficult time believing that there no USA Politicians who have the integrity to stand up against this.
Potentially a very sad day for USA politics and its citizens personal freedoms.
I have been checking CSPAN 1 and 2 and I havent seen anything yet…
Is there a timetable somewhere? I need to get some popcorn and vodkaKevin11 wrote:What an absolute abuse of the system if the anti-gambling stuff goes through piggybacking on a defence bill. I have a difficult time believing that there no USA Politicians who have the integrity to stand up against this.Potentially a very sad day for USA politics and its citizens personal freedoms.
Well, Kevin,
I live in Canada also, I would not be surprised if Canada follows the footsteps of U.S. laws, they usually do.
Only thing saving us in Canada is that most casinos are hosting on Native Territory which would be war should Canadian Government try to stop them.
But you never know
Key elements of that item posted above :
WASHINGTON, Sept 29 (Reuters) – Congress was pushing on Friday to finish legislation that would boost security at U.S. ports, but at the last minute lawmakers added provisions to prohibit Internet gambling.Rushing to finish their work by the weekend to go home and campaign for elections in which control of Congress is at stake, lawmakers were linking up unrelated measures in an effort to get them approved.
The House passed an Internet gambling ban earlier this summer, but the bill had difficulty moving in the Senate. However it was a priority of Senate Republican Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee, and attaching it to the popular port security bill appeared aimed at insuring its passage.
Votes were expected by midnight Friday in both the Senate and the House of Representatives.
There were attempts on Friday to add other unrelated amendments, but apart from the Internet gambling provisions, the others were rejected, a top House leadership aide said.
But I have sen no other mention yet – specifially an item saying it has passed.There were attempts on Friday to add other unrelated amendments, but apart from the Internet gambling provisions, the others were rejected, a top House leadership aide said.
Seems to me that our part is all that got added
Anybody know how fast ban will come into efect?
Is it from the new year or soon as signed?It usually takes about 9 months to become law
