How Long To Get Out of Google Sandbox

Hi Antoine—>

You and I used to email back in the late 90’s when I got into casino aff marketing for the first time, but I doubt you would remember ” title=”” class=”bbcode_smiley” />. It was right around the time you had that issue with your partner–ugh! But it seems like you have bounced back excellently!

I kind of wish I didn’t sell out and take the hiatus because things are so much tougher now. I am trying to put a positive spin on the whole sandbox issue, like it will make the sites in the index much better because only those of us who are serious will continue working on these sites for years without the Google rewards–thank God for MSN and Yahoo–AND I believe that this Sandbox effect is making the sites that we have that are now OUT of the sandbox much, much more valuable to those of us who may decide to sell in the future.

People who want to break into this industry nowadays can either 1) Develop, develop and wait wait wait or 2) Pay one of us a LOT for a non-sandboxed site.

Also, I am experimenting with a new technique where I am am creating a new site using ONLY javascript re-directs for all casino links. Its based on a theory I have that Google Sandboxes sites based on the nature of outbound links it follows from our sites and NOT on the content. Googlebot does not follow javascript re-directs. I will let you all know in about 6 months the results of this little experiment. Has anyone else tried this?

Anyway–3 years is a long time to wait–I was kind of hoping 18 months would be the max for my latest site. I have also heard that it is pretty obvious when a site is released from the Sandbox as there is a VERY NOTICEABLE spike in traffic from G and its affiliates like AOL.

Any more comments?

From my experience it’s 3 years.

Our site is exactly 12 months old, has a PR4, 10,000+ backlinks in Yahoo, and still very much in the Google Sandbox. I have heard of other sites getting out of the sandbox in a resonable amount of time via the SEO forums, but am wondering if gambling related sites are given more scrutiny by Google, meaning that the filters you have to trip are more difficult than they are for other industries. Just a theory, but I fully expect another 6-12 months in the sandbox, of course I could just be jaded about that.

Same here, I think G needs at least 1 year to handle your site “serious”. On SEO forums there is a theory that it could be lasted now 2 years (considering that the top sites in the serps are more than 2 years old.) PR has nothing to do with position, some of the top sites in G have very low (2-3) PR.

For some weeks now I got some visitors from G (about 3-4 daily), but not from the general search page but the picture search.

Maybe it will climb up with time ” title=”” class=”bbcode_smiley” />

Hi,
I have a web site (affiliate, not gambling related) that I started from scratch 9 months ago. Within 4 months Google upgraded it from PR0 right up to PR4. Google has indexed one-third of all the pages so far. At the moment the web site has over 7,000 inbound links. But- no traffic from Google! Maybe 1-2 hits a month, that is it. All visitors that the site gets are coming from Yahoo and MSN (~50/50). So I assume the site is still in the sandbox. I must also admit that I neglected the site within the last couple of months, maybe it plays role, too.

Sorry mate.

When I started google wasn’t a major force in search engines and the “sandbox” wasn’t a twinkle in their mathematicians eyes …
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