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@Inspiration 247841 wrote:
No Active players from 2011 during September to December 2012………weird stuff
I’d have to check but my loss of commission started to dry up in 2011. I think the last payment I received from RA was $203 and that was literally months ago. And any commission I was getting previously from venues abasorbed by CR, well that revenue turned into a trickle (and eventually dried up) within a month or two of being bought out!
Weird? You bet.
Especially since I never promoted to USA players.
I commenced promoting CasinoShare a week or two after they started (that was back in 2006 I believe). Add other Playshare Group of casinos to my portfolio as they opened.
Plus the casinos Vegas Affiliates ran, again absorbed by CR. Then the CR casinos which they had before they became the ‘Cash Converters’ for failed MGS casinos. I’m just one (1) affiliate. Bare in mind I had at one point 30+ sites. That’s a crap load of tagged players to Casino Rewards each month.
A lot of affiliates still stand up for Renee because she’s helpful and such. However when I started questioning income drying up, and was told, don’t worry about it, just keep sending players and we (that’s CR) will convert them; just don’t stop sending players, Renee was scamming me. She know’s damn well what CR was doing.
Renee may not be the one pulling the trigger but she certainly loaded the gun!
pdjoe at AGD said:
Quote:Have managed to pay off my house, car and many other bills off with them. For me they are the best program I have worked with over the years.If they didn’t hijack tagged players, pdjoe could have bought 2 or mores houses etc etc.
That pretty much sums it up right there!
So, even if you are one of the privilaged affiliates still making money with RA/CR, the likelihood is your getting shafted too. How many of the tagged players your sending each month are being hijacked?
How much of your rightful income is being fleeced from you, month after month?
Given the hard cold facts and proof, these figures taken over all affiliate being shafted has allowed CR to purchase an additional 30 failed casinos. Even @ 1mil a venue that’s $30 million which has likely been stolen for affiliates just like you and I.
PS If you think this is reserved for affiliates, your wrong. Jimmy Taylor owner of CR, RA, ITS Management, Technology Services Trading Limited, still owes money to past owners of these casinos.
My experience with casinos assimilated by rewards is similar to AussieDave and allfreechips.
But sometimes I forget that and start promoting the casinos again.
Before UIGEA, I was able to pay off a house too! But now, I couldn’t pay off a roach trap with the income.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbEi1isW3kQ
Resistance is Futile!
@rmeeuwsen 247853 wrote:
My experience with casinos assimilated by rewards is similar to AussieDave and allfreechips.
Before UIGEA, I was able to pay off a house too! But now, I couldn’t pay off a roach trap with the income.
With regard to CR before the UIGEA they had what, 5 casinos?
Everyone back then has a licence to print money. So even if some casinos were shaving, ppl were making so much cash it wasn’t missed.Back then, $30K a month in total commission was not even an eyebrow raiser. There were more than a few making well over $100K a month. However since the UIGEA things have got worse and worse. And, this pilfering by CR has become very much noticeable.
Albeit it seems the people who stick up for RA/CR and their crooked ways, don’t get hammered as as hard though. But I’m sure they’re getting shaved to some extent
@rmeeuwsen 247853 wrote:
Before UIGEA, I was able to pay off a house too! But now, I couldn’t pay off a roach trap with the income.
haha I have the same experience too. Before UIGEA, I paid off my house in 19 months! After UIGEA, I had to start double checking grocery prices at Coles, just to make sure I’m getting the best possible price lol
@michaela26 247859 wrote:
After UIGEA, I had to start double checking grocery prices at Coles, just to make sure I’m getting the best possible price lol
That made me laugh. Try Aldi
@AussieDave 247846 wrote:
PS If you think this is reserved for affiliates, your wrong. Jimmy Taylor owner of CR, RA, ITS Management, Technology Services Trading Limited, still owes money to past owners of these casinos.
Hi AussieDave,
Could you post your source for this statement.
I’d also like to point out I worked at 2 groups which were absorbed by CR.
Cheers
Rak@Rak 247864 wrote:
Could you post your source for this statement.
Sure, Cyber Strobe.
@Rak 247864 wrote:
I’d also like to point out I worked at 2 groups which were absorbed by CR.
Who were they?
I doubt you’d know but if you do, were they paid in full?PS To clarify my statement, I said , “past owners”, I didn’t say all past owners.
@AussieDave 247858 wrote:
however since the UIGEA things have got worse and worse.
Yet these programs are still eager to send half a dozen employees to party it up in various locations around the world at conferences every other month.
If it is so much worse for affiliates, how is it they still party like its 1999? IMO UIGEA gave them a sellable “excuse” to up the ante and to shave like never had before. I take some solace however in knowing one day I might just show up at a conference and reintroduce myself to those who I believe have stolen from me over the years – now that will be a real party!
@arkyt 247912 wrote:
Yet these programs are still eager to send half a dozen employees to party it up in various locations around the world at conferences every other month.
If it is so much worse for affiliates, how is it they still party like its 1999? IMO UIGEA gave them a sellable “excuse” to up the ante and to shave like never had before.
It certainly yields a conflicting story, doesn’t it!
@arkyt 247912 wrote:
I take some solace however in knowing one day I might just show up at a conference and reintroduce myself to those who I believe have stolen from me over the years – now that will be a real party!
I’d join you, but dare say within 24 hours (or less) of landing, I’d be keeping company with the local constabulary
@Rak 247864 wrote:
Could you post your source for this statement.
@Rak 247864 wrote:
I’d also like to point out I worked at 2 groups which were absorbed by CR.
@AussieDave 247867 wrote:
Who were they?
I doubt you’d know but if you do, were they paid in full?Hey Rak,
I answered your question. I noticed you were here today (Last ActivityToday 02:47 AM) but failed to answer my questions.
If you expect people to dance then you have to dance too. Just saying
@AussieDave 247917 wrote:
Hey Rak,
I answered your question. I noticed you were here today (Last ActivityToday 02:47 AM) but failed to answer my questions.
If you expect people to dance then you have to dance too. Just saying
I pretty much visit all the threads on CAP.. and most of them I never comment.
Who I worked for
Group #2 and #3 that went to CR.Not a fan of dancing…
@AussieDave 247846 wrote:
I’d have to check but my loss of commission started to dry up in 2011. I think the last payment I received from RA was $203 and that was literally months ago. And any commission I was getting previously from venues abasorbed by CR, well that revenue turned into a trickle (and eventually dried up) within a month or two of being bought out!
Weird? You bet.
Especially since I never promoted to USA players.
I commenced promoting CasinoShare a week or two after they started (that was back in 2006 I believe). Add other Playshare Group of casinos to my portfolio as they opened.
Plus the casinos Vegas Affiliates ran, again absorbed by CR. Then the CR casinos which they had before they became the ‘Cash Converters’ for failed MGS casinos. I’m just one (1) affiliate. Bare in mind I had at one point 30+ sites. That’s a crap load of tagged players to Casino Rewards each month.
A lot of affiliates still stand up for Renee because she’s helpful and such. However when I started questioning income drying up, and was told, don’t worry about it, just keep sending players and we (that’s CR) will convert them; just don’t stop sending players, Renee was scamming me. She know’s damn well what CR was doing.
Renee may not be the one pulling the trigger but she certainly loaded the gun!
pdjoe at AGD said:
If they didn’t hijack tagged players, pdjoe could have bought 2 or mores houses etc etc.
That pretty much sums it up right there!
So, even if you are one of the privilaged affiliates still making money with RA/CR, the likelihood is your getting shafted too. How many of the tagged players your sending each month are being hijacked?
How much of your rightful income is being fleeced from you, month after month?
Given the hard cold facts and proof, these figures taken over all affiliate being shafted has allowed CR to purchase an additional 30 failed casinos. Even @ 1mil a venue that’s $30 million which has likely been stolen for affiliates just like you and I.
PS If you think this is reserved for affiliates, your wrong. Jimmy Taylor owner of CR, RA, ITS Management, Technology Services Trading Limited, still owes money to past owners of these casinos.
Lol, well said Dave.
There seems to be a consensus amongst affiliate programs where if you send them a certain amount of players and still complain you’re being shaved they’re very quick to point out that you’re making money with them.
One affiliate manager even replied (not going to mention names) when a player complained about the program, “Last month was your best month ever and yet you’re still complaining”.
Hi Rak,
Anyone asks me a direct question, I answer it, plain and simple.
I expect the same courtesy!@Rak 247921 wrote:
I worked for Group #2 and #3 that went to CR.
@Rak 247921 wrote:
I pretty much visit all the threads on CAP.. and most of them I never comment.
Given you have ties to RA/CR, a cynical person may wonder if your agenda in this thread is bias. I’m 99.999% sure Renee wont comment. But I’ll bet my last dollar she’s reading it.
On observation I find it strange; actually very bizarre indeed, out of all the possible questions you could ask anyone in this thread, you asked me the source of my statement. Why would that concern, you?
@Rak 247921 wrote:
I worked for
Group #2 and #3 that went to CR.Feels like groundhog day. Lucas (videoslots.com) tried to play games too. Now your doing it! What were the names of these groups before they were absorbed by CR?
PS And AM’s wonder why some affiliates don’t trust them or their programs 100%.
@Cassaon888 247922 wrote:
There seems to be a consensus amongst affiliate programs where if you send them a certain amount of players and still complain you’re being shaved they’re very quick to point out that you’re making money with them.
One affiliate manager even replied (not going to mention names) when a player complained about the program, “Last month was your best month ever and yet you’re still complaining”.
I don’t know if it’s the industry (on a whole) who turns some AM’s in arrogant #ss’s but I’ve never dealt with so many people from one industry who have such bad attitudes. It may even be just an internet mindset of, I’m behind a monitor and I’m 10 foot tall and bullet proof. Add in the inability to just tell it like it is and you’ve got crap AM’s out there for sure.
Present thread excluded. Fortunately the AM’s I work with now are all top notch!
