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@casinobonusguy 174588 wrote:
I am Not american so I can’t vote.I think Barack/Hillary would have been a nice ticket .Let’s come back to this thread in 4 years and see who was right.My prediction is whoever wins will not solve the mess that Bush is leaving behind , USA needs to get over their obsession with the Oil in middle east .Iraq was all about oil not Terrorism and now they have stirred a real hornet’s nest of problems.
Thats true, Barrack/Hillary would have been a good ticket, but the problem was that ex-president Bill Clinton would have undermined Obama’s presidency. The Clintons never wanted Kerry to get elected just like they don’t want Obama to get elected.
Oil maybe?
It was really a perfect storm in a lot of ways triggered by 9/11.
In the end Sadam himself admitted the the whole WMD thing was just a facad to keep Iran from invading. Although he had the world fooled as well.That combined with Saddam threatening to kill Bush’s father (Bush 41) during the Gulf War and Bush’s father double crossing the Kurds when they wanted to stage a coup. Perhaps the current Bush wanted to get revenge or make right his fathers double cross of the Kurds.
Then again maybe oil supplies are depleted and we just don’t know about it. Perhaps Opec and the oil companies are just cashing in.
I know one thing I’ve come to the conclusion that the Iraq war was deliberately dragged out for money and political purposes.
@casinobonusguy 174588 wrote:
USA needs to get over their obsession with the Oil in middle east .Iraq was all about oil not Terrorism and now they have stirred a real hornet’s nest of problems.
Very well said!
Gustav is a perfect example of how we can’t spend billons of dollars on drilling in areas where the entire effort can be distroyed in a day and does NOT address the issue.
McCain’s campaign has been hijacked by the far right. McCain/Palin is an arranged political marriage orchestrated by Rove & his cronies. McCain chose Palin after meeting her freakin’ once! His most important (and 1st) executive decision ever, picking Palin as his VP, was irresponsible & dangerous. He gave us a preview of what he would do in office! Appoint based on who the far-right, the lobbyists & neo-cons want. Exactly what Bush did & look where that got us. Bluntly, McCain is old (for an incoming president) & has had serious medical problems. If he was to fall ill while in office, in this time of war & economic disaster, we’d have a former PTA member, Alaska pageant runner-up, mayor of 6,000 & Governor for 30 months of the 47th smallest state leading our nation. The Palin choice is intended to divide the country again by using religion, gun-rights & abortion as wedge issues. Sound familiar? Palin was picked solely for political reasons with total disregard to who would best serve the country as Vice President. No way, no how, NO McSame!
Obama/Biden ’08!!!
McCain here.
I thought polosi, the speaker was against online poker, at least thats what she emailed me.
Living in Canada for a long time and being born there as well, I can honestly say I didnt like the health care., it sucked when I had to see a specialist.
Im in the states now. I was at the unimployment office with my cousin the other day, today I was at the department of motor vehicles trying to find out how I can donate my car to a charity, wow what a line at both places, the people were a little rude, many didnt want to help, like they have civul service jobs and they knew they couldnt get fired, many had accents so think I couldnt understand them. Sorry, I dont want those people providing me my health care, do you want the DMV setting up your doctor apt.
anyone who fought in Nam knows, that anyone who is given the chance to leave the hanoi hilton, and refuses because he wants those who were there longer than him to leave first is a very rare individule.
Use to be this country honered war heros, like JFK, great president and war hero. NE one who was a pow for as long as McCain, deserves 7 houses.
By the way, isnt that the American dream, you all sound like your against capitalism.
@bud405n 174981 wrote:
anyone who fought in Nam knows, that anyone who is given the chance to leave the hanoi hilton, and refuses because he wants those who were there longer than him to leave first is a very rare individule.
I thought the reason that he did not leave early was because he did not want to give the enemy the satisfaction of embarrasing his father who was a ‘big wig’ back then?
I watched the event last night and I was surprised by the “Country First” thing and making it seem like the other parties don’t care about or are to stupid to take care of the country they live in.
They complain about funding ‘social’ programs for “the people” but will bend over backwards/frontwards to fund Iraq at a cost of 10 Billion USA DOLLARS a month while they save thier money.
If they are so proud of the job they have done why is Dick Cheney not even mentioned or even invited to the RNC? These are the people that lied to the world about weapons of mass destruction as well as went to war against the best judgement of the UN and other countries.
IMO they DON’T deserve four more days let alone four more years.
Edit: MCain has done hardly nothing for the vets and if you look at his record you will be quite surprised.
The notion that because John McCain was a war hero qualifies him to be president is pretty funny, from the people who lied about John Kerry’s military service.
Is the American dream owning 5 or 7 or 100 houses? Maybe it is for some and that’s fine, everyone get’s their own dream.
the problem is you want me to hire a 71 year with multiple reoccurances of cancer, who’s running on more of the same failed policy and he doesn’t know how many homes he owns. What else doesn’t he recall about his own life?
Having moved from the US to Canada, to a community that is short doctors, i’d like to point our that so far there have been no issues. Myself and my children walk into a clinic and usually see a doctor in 10-20 minutes. My neighbor was sent to Indianapolis for 6 weeks by the province for cancer treatment and my lawn guy’s wife was sent to michigan for spinal fusion surgery that cost $100+k paid for by OHIP. While i’m sure there are issues for lot’s of people and i know that the system is best for the very healthy and very sick, it’s still better than what 10’s of millions of Americans get. Ask any doctor working in an innercity hospital in the US and hear how great the system works.
Sorry republicans think of the Democrats as socialist, since they’re the most moderate “left” party in the western world. But I guess it’s fair since i view Republicans as a bunch of facist liars.
Remember the “bridge to nowhere”? well after Palin had spent millions on building the roads leading into the bridge, she then cancelled it. Oh, she kept the money, didn’t send it back to the federal government. She’s not against patronage, she’s just against congress assigning how it should be used.
@bud405n 174981 wrote:
McCain here.
Im in the states now. I was at the unimployment office with my cousin the other day
By the way, isnt that the American dream, you all sound like your against capitalism.
actually unimployment insurance is a democratic program. (Franklin D. Roosevelt)
Don’t be blinded by idology.
I’m pretty sure Democrats and Republicans love the country and capitalism equally. It’s just a matter of which party is more willing to sell the country out to become wealthy.
FYI ,, You can not have Capitolism flurish when the goverment controlls service sectors and allows people to live off welfare. Goverment Heath care is a GIANT step away from Capitolism, and dirtectly into socialism.. Welfare is a Democratic disatster, just like the eased up loan requirements so everyone can have a house was a Democaratic disaster.. If you hand people the tools to live for freee what will motivate them.
Then what happenes when Obama writes everyone a 1000 check form the oil comapanies? Think they are going to take the loss or make it up at the pumps? You can not punish the corporations as they really can not be messed with, they will either pack up, or pass the bill to the consumers that the Democrats for 20 years have been scaring into believing they can have their issues resolved. Billy boy didnt do it, but everone seems to think everything was great when he was president. Sold off the military to get some budget control, only to allow massive spending by the Bush administration to rebuild.. Billy had Osama Bin Laden dead to wrights but wouldnt pull the trigger on many occasions, to concerned with making millions and havin office sex in the peoples house.
Im also sick of Bush being blamed for things congress does, people need to get their heads out of their ass and pay attention to how it works in this country.
Do not vote for this mess because some good old boys on the republican side passed the Gambling shit, wait till you get a load of Obama’s protection plan for you people.
@allfreechips 174991 wrote:
FYI ,, You can not have Capitolism flurish when the goverment controlls service sectors and allows people to live off welfare. Goverment Heath care is a GIANT step away from Capitolism, and dirtectly into socialism.. Welfare is a Democratic disatster, just like the eased up loan requirements so everyone can have a house was a Democaratic disaster.. If you hand people the tools to live for freee what will motivate them.
Then what happenes when Obama writes everyone a 1000 check form the oil comapanies? Think they are going to take the loss or make it up at the pumps? You can not punish the corporations as they really can not be messed with, they will either pack up, or pass the bill to the consumers that the Democrats for 20 years have been scaring into believing they can have their issues resolved. Billy boy didnt do it, but everone seems to think everything was great when he was president. Sold off the military to get some budget control, only to allow massive spending by the Bush administration to rebuild.. Billy had Osama Bin Laden dead to wrights but wouldnt pull the trigger on many occasions, to concerned with making millions and havin office sex in the peoples house.
Im also sick of Bush being blamed for things congress does, people need to get their heads out of their ass and pay attention to how it works in this country.
Do not vote for this mess because some good old boys on the republican side passed the Gambling shit, wait till you get a load of Obama’s protection plan for you people.
Personally, I don’t lean Republican because they want to control the flow of money, the UIGEA is proof of that. I have no problem with legitimate handouts as most of that money gets dumped in the economy anyway.
Although lower taxes does stimulate economic growth, when the economy grows too fast we have inflation, inflation is much more expensive that a higher tax bracket. Property taxes go up, water bills to up, food goes up, the list goes on and on.
@allfreechips 174991 wrote:
FYI ,, You can not have Capitolism flurish when the goverment controlls service sectors and allows people to live off welfare. Goverment Heath care is a GIANT step away from Capitolism, and dirtectly into socialism.. Welfare is a Democratic disatster, just like the eased up loan requirements so everyone can have a house was a Democaratic disaster.. If you hand people the tools to live for freee what will motivate them.
I’m sure the thousands of americans that have been forced into bankrupcy due to medical bills see it differently.
The majority of americans are just one medical crisis away from financial disaster. How is it wrong to want your government to provide medical coverage for those that can’t afford to pay for it themselves?
You are giving iraq WELFARE so what’s wrong with giving it to the folks that work in this country everyday two and three shift just to survive?
Econimics is a deep subject, and of course I dont agree with many things the republican party does as well, but I see nothing good from the “Change” proposed..
Our civill liberties are being taken away from us a little bit at a time. With each loss, Big Government tightens its surveillance of the body politic — it’s getting increasingly difficult to draw a deep, free breath. We need change now, to destroy the boa constrictor before the b.s. completely suffocates our cherished free society. So far we’ve got governance by fear, phone surveillance, suspension of habeas corpus, the UIGEA, and scores of other governmental abuses of power. We really can’t handle 4 more years of this and expect to keep the republic which Ben Franklin warned us that, without passionate vigilance, we would surely lose.
I agree, and disarming America is a giant step continuing that, forcing dependance on the government is another.. We need to break away from the same ol crap we had for the last 24 years.
On a high note Ron Paul has a quite a following going still for his strict constituion goverment, Sara Palin looks amazing as a reformer.
@allfreechips 175047 wrote:
I agree, and disarming America is a giant step continuing that, forcing dependance on the government is another..
The DEMs are not about putting america in harms way and I’m sick of being told that they are! We are in more danger today then we were in 2001 because of the GOP reckless decision making over the last eight years.
The only dependency that I see as a REAL problem is the USA to foreign oil and telling us that we MUST stay in a war that is not worth fighting.
