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November 7, 2008 at 11:00 am #785860
Anonymous
InactiveLooking on the optimistic side, it should mean that existing players stay loyal for longer as their choices will become non-existant.
November 7, 2008 at 11:18 am #785862Anonymous
InactiveI haven’t gotten a straight answer to why that MicroGaming is planning to pull out of the
U.S. market. I do believe that affiliates should be given the logical reason why, because
they have alot at stake in the decision, and the MicroGaming properties will lose some
of their credibility with affiliates if they can’t easily justify their reasons to leave.One MicroGaming affiliate program was promoting e-checks heavily over the past couple
of weeks, so I’m guessing that they weren’t in the loop about this, or it was a decision
that came down suddenly for one reason or another. I was told that the MicroGaming
casinos will keep the existing players for the short-term, but I’m assuming that this is
only going to last for a while.. and then they will eventually lock them out as well.In any industry, where their is a void.. their is an opportunity for someone to take a risk
and fill it. Rival casinos continue to accept U.S. players and they’ll have to fill the void.
Unfortunately, this is an industry where affiliates rely on income for the lifetime of a
player.. and when affiliate programs make rush decisions without putting their affiliates
in the loop, it hurts the affiliates earnings.. and the reputation of the affiliate programs.November 7, 2008 at 4:23 pm #785889Anonymous
InactiveIs Intertops pulling out of the U.S. as well?
November 7, 2008 at 7:42 pm #785926Anonymous
Inactive@cowboy 185254 wrote:
Is Intertops pulling out of the U.S. as well?
I spoke to Roman yesterday and he said they would probably wait to understand all the facts before making a decision. He and Michel were in London for the GPWA do aswell which isn’t ideal when things like this arise

Think I’ll have to take CAC Macau a bit more seriously now :3eyes:
November 7, 2008 at 11:55 pm #785954Anonymous
InactiveI tried to call Renee or Yaniv at CR yesterday to get their take – as they haven’t been around since this hit the fan – but they aren’t taking calls.
I saw a post somewhere that suggested they may stay – but Brightshare was included in that post and I know for a fact that they will be gone.
Anyone know anything?
ntaus
November 8, 2008 at 12:50 am #785957Anonymous
InactiveI spoke to Renee last night but the conversation was somewhat short as I was preparing for the hurricane that’s coming here tonight. The reason she hasn’t probably answered the phone is that she has been very busy with calling various affiliates to let them know what is going on. When you called she was probably out of the office. So I don’t think they are being non responsive intentionally. They are just swamped. They operate over 10 casinos and have thousands of affiliates. They are also wanting to collect all of the available info before making a statement that might contain inaccurate information.
That being said I don’t want to release the information that I know as I feel that it should come from them, in case I misunderstood something, or in case things change.
November 8, 2008 at 6:06 am #785970Anonymous
InactiveWhile they are saying that existing players will be able to continue to play, I wouldn’t be surprised if in the near future that changes. Everything has been changing. First it was certain states banned, then another state, then bordering states, and then the whole US. If they don’t accept new US players I think it is definitely likely that all players will be banned in the near future. If they are pulling out for legal, processing, UIGEA, or any of the other reasons speculated on, then why would they continue to let established players play? I wouldn’t be trying to build a large established base of US players because they say they will continue to be able to play. I hope I am wrong.
November 8, 2008 at 8:02 am #785972
LucretiaMemberforgive me fot being mr. stupid but if MG pulls out from the US the affiliate programs who use the software have to follow suit or not ?
I hope the US ban will be lifted after a while for MG because this situation is the financial crisis in online gaming.
:sarcasm:
November 8, 2008 at 9:05 am #785976Anonymous
Inactive@ntaus8 185343 wrote:
I tried to call Renee or Yaniv at CR yesterday to get their take – as they haven’t been around since this hit the fan – but they aren’t taking calls.
I saw a post somewhere that suggested they may stay – but Brightshare was included in that post and I know for a fact that they will be gone.
Anyone know anything?
ntaus
There’s a telling line in the Grand Privé announcement that might indicate the answer:
However, it has now emerged that MGS will not allow any new USA registrations at any casinos
November 8, 2008 at 11:36 am #785979Anonymous
InactiveIf the decision is from MGS which I think it is, it will be implemented across all operators _ Some will try to extend the time as to when they switch off getting new customers but it will only be a matter of days I reckon because MGS just wouldn’t allow it as a software provider
Oh and of all companies in iGaming MGS would in my opinion be the last one that will ever float – They are a very private company and I am 100% sure that is the way they want to stay
November 8, 2008 at 12:17 pm #785981Anonymous
InactiveGrand Prive is backing out alltogether!
” Clearly this development makes operating in the United States very difficult for us and, as such, Grand Privé Affiliates will close our US operations on 1 December 2008, with our final commission payment (for November’s play) for all American players marking the closing of this chapter in the United States book. “
November 8, 2008 at 12:39 pm #785983Anonymous
InactiveIf so, Grand Prive is completely inconsiderate of the affiliates that fed it, and they are coming off my sites all the way, no international traffic for them. Same goes for anyone else who will not give us a grace period.
November 8, 2008 at 12:54 pm #785986Anonymous
Inactive@darmac 185374 wrote:
Grand Prive is backing out alltogether!
” Clearly this development makes operating in the United States very difficult for us and, as such, Grand Privé Affiliates will close our US operations on 1 December 2008, with our final commission payment (for November’s play) for all American players marking the closing of this chapter in the United States book. “
This quite stunning. I can’t understand why they would make that move. :Cry:
November 8, 2008 at 3:55 pm #785999Anonymous
InactiveI sure hope the programs that stop allowing our existing U.S. players to play do everything in their power to move our players to a new platform where they can continue to play.
Kind of like what Wager Profits did with our U.S. players (moving them to Pantasia and making sure their affiliates kept the players).
Clearly all of the Microgaming U.S. players are still a valuable assest and I would assume groups that stop allowing them to play would attempt to sell them to a group that could allow them to keep playing.
Don’t forget about your affiliates MG groups!
November 8, 2008 at 4:06 pm #786002Anonymous
Inactive@nodepositneeded 185393 wrote:
Clearly all of the Microgaming U.S. players are still a valuable assest and I would assume groups that stop allowing them to play would attempt to sell them to a group that could allow them to keep playing.
About as valuable as a mortgage backed security.
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