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I hate to be mr cynical.
let’s say MG have information that ban will be lifted in 6 months time.
They ban new players at the moment and us affiliate lose most of our players, within 6 months we notice good earnings are now a trickle.
Then bang they open up the doors and start marketing again.
As said before, what is difference between existing and new?
@Merlin 185124 wrote:
Its very simple guys.
Their US funds are being frozen just like bodogs and 3 other states have instituted actions against them. I would also pull out if I were them them.
Can you elaborate on that?
If their funds were being frozen then why would they keep their existing players? I don’t believe this has anything to do with payment processing and if it was it wouldn’t be just Microgaming having issues. The bodog issue is completely separate where bodog were working with people inside the US to do payment processing themselves, that is a completely separate incident. I don’t think Microgaming are planning to do this so they could try to remove players from affiliates when they return. It would be suicide on their part to even attempt something like this and I don’t believe this is their intentions. If MG are still keeping their existing players and they have more to lose than they do to gain by this.
Lots of speculations flying around but let’s wait until Monday to see what the answer is from MG. I do wish it was 6 months or less before UIEGA gets put to rest.
Try speak to one of the MG operators head hunchos. The truth will be revealed
Else Ill tell you in person at London CAP.
regards
Merlin@CasinosMaster 185125 wrote:
I hate to be mr cynical.
let’s say MG have information that ban will be lifted in 6 months time.
They ban new players at the moment and us affiliate lose most of our players, within 6 months we notice good earnings are now a trickle.
Then bang they open up the doors and start marketing again.
As said before, what is difference between existing and new?
Actually, I was thinking the same thing.
@CasinosMaster 185125 wrote:
I hate to be mr cynical.
let’s say MG have information that ban will be lifted in 6 months time.
Do you have information to lead you to believe that is EVEN possible?
I guess this sort of thing will always bring out the best in all of us who are conspiracy theorists but I assure you MGS will not have made this decision without significant legal council and the best at that.
It is also a massive commercial decision.
For those that think they are trying to do this to list on the LSE and or screw affiliates? I think that is very far from the truth.
Let’s hope they can continue to service loyal players. That’s a lot better than nothing.
I just found out that President Elect Obama is going to have a website where we will be able to give OUR opinion on the vision and direction that we want for our country, you can apply for a job with his administration and other things, but the site is so busy that I can’t get on!!!!!!
This is where we need to start! Those of us that worked on his campaign let them know that WE EXPECT him to be a man of the people and follow thru on his promises and I know that we can get this business regulated, but we all need to do our part.
I never suggested MG was going this to screw affiliates, some have hinted this was the reason but I really think that is casino suicide. They make enough $ that they don’t need to and for a company that has been in the game for 10+ years I don’t think the plan on starting now.
As for going on the LSE it’s just speculation (just my opinion that’s all) but let’s say you owned Microgaming and it’s worth $10 billion right now. Would you go on the LSE for $5 billion right now or would you rather make more but take another 10 years to get that? When a company floats the owners get a serious paycheck and the company gets a boost of credibility. I’m just stating what makes sense to me. If MG were going on the LSE very soon they would have to behave similar to the others on the LSE (neteller, 888, party, playtech). With the world markets being what they are now and with online gambling being the fun exciting rollercoaster ride that it is, I certainly would like to take the risk free fat paycheck.
I’m done on the subject but enjoy reading the comments, Monday it is
A stock float with MG at this time would be a suicide move in the current stock market mentality we are in.
It must be something else going on here and I don’t like it :flush:This is what I was told…
They tried the ip block on Kentucky and it failed so they tried the block on the surrounding states and that failed SO they thought about the aol block and that would end up blocking thousands as you can imagine. So they can block the entire country easier maybe who knows but we can all hope it is only temporary.
The good side we can still gain rev off our players in there, we have to have faith that they will keep player retention for us going, we have to hope it is only temporary and finally we have to not spend time speculating and get as buns in gear to pick up a loss of income and compensate for it. I think player retention is going to improve for us greatly with this move.
I am grateful that it is only a block on new players coming in this gives me time to build up the other markets.
It is a sad situation we will see casinos close and we will see affiliate managers lose jobs and last we will see some of our webmaster friends fold up their business.
If there are players that have been untagged from affiliates I might suggest they get tagged back so the affiliates can see some income and have hope and with that hope they will work harder for you and with you on getting other players from the other markets.
Last I don’t want to blame programs and I know some of them fought tooth and nail and this is the last thing they wanted to do, they have to follow the software providers orders guys. BUT while that is the case any of you that currently take players from the US and decide to cut them off totally when you have the choice to continue to let them play, I hope you change your mind. I don’t believe for a min that the USA players have become a burden and not profitable anymore.
“we have to have faith that they will keep player retention for us going”
I wish this was true, but it is not, I was told by more than one manager they will cutting back on incentives to existing US players. So were screwed.
Well if that is the case then I will decrease exposure to them. Villento and Rich Reels will not do this I have been promised! I have already established traffic going to several non USA MG casinos and they will continue to get the higher exposure from me because they have always worked close with me and have always retained my players. Wagershare is very good at retention and so is Betway.
Hi guys,
I was off for a couple of weeks and now come back and see this thread.
What da hell is going on?
Can someone explain to me what’s exactly happening with US players? Is it just Microgaming that’s banning all US players? Is someone MG or other software still accepting them? Because if that’s the case then they might have converted better to MG, but if they have no choice now they’ll have to convert to other sftw, either they like it or not, correct?
And what’s the Kentucky thing altogether?
Sorry to be clueless but I was really out for a while do to my day job commitements.Thanks guys
