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December 4, 2007 at 10:21 pm #755623AnonymousGuest
fair enough Air…… so you’re concern is contact time and not fraud players? that correct?
well get used to it my friend. I have also been in biz a long time ….. and I can say for certain that you WILL wait for replies ……from very reputable programs both in gambling and not.
I say this from personal experience and also state….. if you have not ….. I venture to say ….. you have not really touched on internet promotion. No offense intended … just the truth from years of experience.
December 4, 2007 at 10:24 pm #755624AnonymousGuestI can’t find “AiruaL” in Casinomiester or any other casino related.
thanks to Wager for doing homework I didn’t
December 4, 2007 at 10:32 pm #755625AnonymousInactivewow….
so much buzz about:
emails unanswered: http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/emails-not-answerred.22796.html?&highlight=emailsor fraud?
erm… lemme think…
whats the real source of your worries AiruaL?–it can’t be the closing of your accountwith nothing in it… is it??
–aff managers not responding… is what happens every day also with respected ones…..there must be more or another reason wich makes you posting like this…
(english not being my native neither…soz)
we need more facts…
December 4, 2007 at 10:34 pm #755626AnonymousInactiveIt seems to me that some sort of bonus whoring coupled with blackjack advantage play is being implied here. However I must say that the only scenario where that would make a “fraudulent business proposition” is where the affiliate is on CPA. Wagershare as practiced at RA would be very unlikely to work well for the fraudulent aff since he would need to have the planet’s 20 biggest blackjack highrollers who consistently beat the house. Moreover RA’s Wagershare model indeed pays jack for blackjack (couldn’t resist :tongue:).
So if this really is the assumption here I don’t think it could have really worked. Unless of course he is being suspected of another scheme.
December 4, 2007 at 10:39 pm #755627paoloMemberbb1webs;147062 wrote:fair enough Air…… so you’re concern is contact time and not fraud players? that correct?Contact time in ordinary customer support questions are little bit different thing. But I agree with Stupid and other Veteran posters that in an occurance where you cannot login to your account normally, you should be contacted immediately by that program about the state of your account. Do you agree with this webs?
December 4, 2007 at 10:47 pm #755628AnonymousGuestSo if this really is the assumption here I don’t think it could have really worked. Unless of course he is being suspected of another scheme.
Hi G:
I ask….. how many other proven aff webmasters will come forward and say they had their accounts closed by RA?
this is my main issue ……. but apparently not Airs…… as this person has stated the true problem is not the fraud…. but the response time ????????
okay fine.
so we got someone that won’t provide their web url…. and according to them ….. NOW the problem is response time ….
I’m sorry… smells worse and worse to me …… and G…. you make the point.
there’s a very unlikely situation to arise where RA would close any account ….. under any circumstances. ………considering their wager share approach.
but to stay on track …… (by Air’s choice ……not mine) ….. lets back to response time on emails.
please put aside any issues concerning the closing of account over fraud.
that fair Air?
I’m sorry if I sound very unappreciative of your approach ….. but you give good reason …. like the truth or not.
you have given every reason to not trust your posts…… and little reason to back you.
I am not a schill for RA…. but i do call ’em as i see ’em. and right now my friend….. you one pitch away from striking out in my book.
December 4, 2007 at 10:52 pm #755629paoloMemberelgoog;147065 wrote:–it can’t be the closing of your accountwith nothing in it… is it??
–aff managers not responding… is what happens every day also with respected ones….Once more: It is NOT about normal emails not being answered super fast, which is not a problem in general.
It is about affiliate program deciding not to inform immediately about a drastic change in the state of your affiliate account so that you can´t login normally anymore (but just after 5 days and one email sent they contact you back with the info)…This kind of a miscommunication is a huge “leak” in business communications in my opinion and brings a lot of stress with it to affiliates in question – especially if there should be money in that account. In my case there was ZERO $$$ earned (thank god) so I did not freak out or lost my sleep during this “communication fraud” (if you like the fraud word so much :wink-wink) by an affiliate program.
BTW: I start to see some trolling in this thread by some (maybe envious?) users, and I am going to ignore these troll posts about “fraud” – “fraud” which has not been evidenced by affiliate program in question so it should be left out of discussion completely.
P.S I use very different username at Casinomeister and now I go to get some good night sleep with my GF.
December 4, 2007 at 11:00 pm #755630AnonymousGuestAir….. you want credibility ….. send a PM someone …not necessarily myself ….. of your website. then at very least you can have someone come in and speak on your behalf…..
as it is….. by not providing ALL info …. you look ….suspicious. If you can appreciate …. we have encountered this sort of situation in the past.
December 4, 2007 at 11:03 pm #755631AnonymousGuestP.S I use very different username at Casinomeister.
Do you see the reason for our doubting Air? provide ALL info …… even if its to one person of proven credibility ……. and they WILL speak on your behalf ….. otherwise ….. you’re just another whiner
I hope I am made clear ….. and you understand i am fair-minded ….. but you gotta consider the all-around facts and angles that are involved.
December 4, 2007 at 11:05 pm #755632paoloMemberbb1webs;147072 wrote:Air….. you want credibility ….. send a PM someone …not necessarily myself ….. of your website. then at very least you can have someone come in and speak on your behalf…..as it is….. by not providing ALL info …. you look ….suspicious. If you can appreciate …. we have encountered this sort of situation in the past.
This key point about bad communication practices by an affiliate program has got nothing to do with anyones website. Completely off-topic. Don´t start to slip now webs
December 4, 2007 at 11:07 pm #755634AnonymousGuestfair enough Air…… you are right on that point.
I apologize.
December 4, 2007 at 11:16 pm #755637LucretiaMemberi do not think you have to be afraid of sending bb1webs your url for a look.
He has been around for a while
Bb1webs thanks for referring CR/RA as a good program no regrets so far, just very positive things!
Renee is just great to work with.
If you do the right thing you will get the Rewards.
Bad traffic………….is………bad for all of us.
RA/CR Casinos have a good reputation let’s keep it this way or make them even better.
Fraudulent players are an annoyance and traffic sources referring players with bad intentions should be halted ASAP.
Let’s make some honest bucks…….think of your other players……build a solid partnership…….
That’s what it is all about.
Rick
December 4, 2007 at 11:18 pm #755638AnonymousInactiveMy only thoughts after reading this whole thread (which took way too much of my time)…
As AffiliateGuardDog: CR/RA should have notified the affiliate of the issue BEFORE/DURING the closing of the account. There is no excuse for this. It doesn’t matter what happened, the affiliate should be notified so that they don’t keep sending over FREE traffic. That is just not right.
As an emotional affiliate: I would be very unhappy if my account were closed and I were not notified… Just like I am upset when an affiliate program changes their link structure and doesn’t notify all affiliates (outside of posting on a forum or 2 about it after the fact)
December 4, 2007 at 11:23 pm #755639LucretiaMemberSending traffic the casino does not like can not be solved by closing an affiliate account.
That’s correct – you should get a warning beforehand. If you still do not comply then ………. you are to blame.
Rick
December 4, 2007 at 11:56 pm #755642AnonymousGuestagreed with above….
my understanding was it was only 2 days … over weekend . …. before notice as made.
but agree with above …..any program….. should notify aff of closing of account …..
fair enough and agreed here.
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