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have been for example sub-affiliating to several affiliates more than a year now
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I have over 2000 unique visitors in my first 10 days
and how do you know this
I know most of my players are total newbies to online casino gambling
1. Do you know what sub-affiliating means? I can point you several affiliates, which have sub-affiliating programs. Some of them (in online poker world) are for example: http://www.rakereduction.com, http://www.raketherake.com and http://www.rakebacklovers.com.
2. I use google analytics, so I see how many unique visitors I get daily and in total.
3. From the feedback I have gotten from my players and based on from what sites my players are coming to my site, about 90% of my players have never gambled in an online casino. Many of them have tried online poker thou in the past.
My site is growing rapidly and I have over 2000 unique visitors in my first 10 days,
Wow
yours site is 10 days old and you have that traffic?
Wish i knew how this works.
May i ask which is your site?You say you are a newbie to all that
but if i read throgh your post that does not sound so newbie style, lolDont expect Casino Rewards to treat you like a partner if you are sending them players that are intentionally trying to rip them off.
Oh and wanted to mention also
I cant say anything bad bout CR
they always pay in time, they are always fast in answering any questions,
I think its a very good and honest program and they know their businessAre you a Chinese affiliate, and/or does your traffic consist of Chinese players?
@AiruaL 146958 wrote:
I started as an affiliate a week ago so I am a pretty new in this.
@AiruaL 146958 wrote:
My site is growing rapidly and I have over 2000 unique visitors in my first 10 days
WOW! :wow: :omg: :exclamati
I have a good personal reputation as a poster in some very very popular national internet forums, so I was able to bring in a lot of traffic to my current site from the the beginning without much any advertising at all – people just follow links in my signatures with curiosity. I have used less than $300 into advertising this far.
I wouldn´t rather publish my site yet here, because 1) It´s very very under construction contentwise, and I am not even a domain owner where it is located now 2) It is in foreign language to 99% to you, so you wouldn´t understand anything about it anyway. I have some strong content thou in it related to many aspects of online gambling, not just link/bannerfarm to online casinos. So that´s also a reason to rapid popularity I guess. I will move it to my own domain and translate it in english in the beginning of the new year when I have all the content I want ready, and I have hired some people to make graphical design and web platform for me. So then I can put link to it in international forums too
But back to a question: How can affiliate program this big decide what kind of a users I will bring in (hundreds of them) in upcoming months, from the first ~20 users who happen to use my links? And even that´s okay for me if they don´t want me to promote them, but how they don´t even bother to email me about it?! In my opinion this is a very unprofessional manner to work with in this kind of a business.
I have had very good support and contact with affiliate managers with other groups I have decided to promote this far, so I hope this is just a rare occurance of bad business practice in this industry from this particular group.
EDIT: I am not chinese, I am from Europe and so are my users.
Hey AiruaL
No it’s not normal at all.
As you might imagine Casino groups are actually very keen to attract and retain affiliates that bring in a vast number of genuine players.
My experience with Casino Rewards (18 months) has been positive so far – I don’t believe that they randomly choose your account – or to victimise you – so you may have to look closer to home to understand the reason.
To be shut down inside a week suggests that for whatever reason people using your links were generating a large amount of fraud.
:Cry:As you use google analytics you might be able to track down the source of those fraudulent players and you might want to reconsider using that source again. It’s never gonig to be profitable.
It does suck when your account gets closed like this – so I feel for you – but being closed so quickly means that you were hardly strung along – and that you have not invested too much SEO time into the job.
So at least you can move on and try another group ?
Sorry that I cannot suggest anything more positive.
Looks like Renee from Reward Affiliates is reading this thread, so she can propably PM me if there was some credit card fraud or things like that involved with first users who happened to use my links.
But even if that was the case, I would have hoped them to email me when they decided to close my account. I am not unhappy much at all about affiliate account closure – that is their decision completely, and I have several other affiliate schemes to choose from, but I am unhappy that they decided not to inform me about it in the first place so I had to live in the dark for days about a state of my affiliate account.
Hi AiruaL
It is standard policy not to disclose the details of the fraud committed. This would be showing other fraudsters an easy path.
The reason you did not get an email was because I have been out of the office for a few days on personal leave. I returned today to see your email, and replied. This was at my earliest convenience. I don’t have a blackberry so am unable to email while I am not in the office.
I am actually pretty disappointed that you obviously don’t respect my confidentiality clause at the bottom of each and every email I send out. This is put there for a reason. I would appreciate it if you had asked me before posting my email. I’m sure other affiliates/aff managers will agree with me.
If you have any questions, you can direct them to me via email.
Thanks.
Renee;146969 wrote:I am actually pretty disappointed that you obviously don’t respect my confidentiality clause at the bottom of each and every email I send out. This is put there for a reason.There´s nothing to hide in your email, it´s very simple and standard without any personal info to hide in it. Of course I am not revealing any confidential or any personal info in public.
Well, that´s not a very good reason from you to say that you were not able to contact me at the time the account closure occured, because someone had to push a button at some computer to close an affiliate account, so she/he could have emailed me at the same time about that.
Maybe you learn from this and renew your business practices to better.
@AiruaL 146970 wrote:
There´s nothing to hide in your email, it´s very simple and standard without any personal info to hide in it. Of course I am not revealing any confidential or any personal info in public.
Well, that´s not a very good reason from you to say that you were not able to contact me at the time the account closure occured, because someone had to push a button at some computer to close an affiliate account, so she/he could have emailed me at the same time about that.
Maybe you learn from this and renew your business practices to better.
No, there was nothing confidential about my email, however the clause is still there and you disregarded it…
No offence intended mate, but I was away on personal leave. I think that’s good enough reason. Perhaps you should consider what personal leave means and that saying ‘it’s not good enough’ may be insensitive. I am human afterall.
The person who ‘presses the button’ on these things is not one of the affiliate managers, and therefore did not send out the email.
As I said, if you have any further questions, feel free to send me an email. I wont be discussing this any further here.
Renee;146971 wrote:No offence intended mate, but I was away on personal leave. I think that’s good enough reason. Perhaps you should consider what personal leave means and that saying ‘it’s not good enough’ may be insensitive. I am human afterall.I am not blaming You that You were not able to contact me. I honor your personal off-work time. But there should be some standardized email that can be sent by the person who presses that button at the same time so an affiliate does not have to live days in the dark without any info. It could be simple message something like:
“Dear Affiliate
This is a standardized message in a case of an account closure: You are not able to login to your affiliate account at the moment because of a temporary or final closure of your account – you will be sent personal information later about this closure, when our affiliate manager will be back on duty.
Best Regards,
RewardsAffiliates”Something simple automated message like that would make message receivers life less stressful.
GL to everyone in the future, I have nothing personal against Reneé or anyone else. Just a bit unhappy with business practices used here.
Hmmmm, every couple of months the same thing happens. A new affiliate comes on this message board bashing established programs that have great reputations amongst both players and webmasters.
A couple of questions:
1. Did you choose reward affiliates because they pay the wager share model versus the player loss model?
2. Are you getting players to visit the casino, to make the minimum deposit, play the minimum required under the terms and conditions, and then explaining to those players when they should cash out?
3. Are you assuming that even if the player cashes out the exact same amount they deposited that you will be earning money from the wager model?
4. Are your players playing at the casino because they are gamblers or are they trying to defraud the casino?
I think I all ready know the answers.
Hi all,
RA is upstanding in may respects. While I have experienced a fall off with them … I don’t condemn them.
I damn sure know they don’t close accounts for any reason less than reasonable.
No dis-respect intended to original poster …… but i do point out what Ant said ….. 8 posts …. and already bashing a reputable program.
I suggest to everyone that when experiencing such an instance …. with a program …. that …… had you done a search and homework … seen the program in question has a very good reputation ….. deserves a second ….even third chance at handling your situation because trust me …. 7 yrs in this niche. ……. its damn hard to find a reputable program ….. and when you do …. you better give them every chance to work things out.
yes I’m biased. I admit that. but experience gives me the reason and logic for being so.
I think that original poster has greatly hurt themselves not contacing Renee on a personal basis and saying ….. “hey…. I’ve got this situation…. I need your help in figuring out the matter because I want to work with you”.
I know from my own experience with Brent ….. (back then he was aff manager) …. that my taking those steps made things work.
do your homework. Search here at CAP. …. furthermore ……many forums are biased …. some may be run by unscrupulous programs for instance….. trust your proven and older aff people. We DO NOT make claims unfounded….. we DO NOT defend programs that don’t deserve it!!!
thanks for considering what i have said.
