- This topic is empty.
-
Posts
-
IMHO casinomeister should be #1 for many gambling terms like “online casinos”, “online casino”, “online gambling” to name a few
This is too funny. He pretty much doesn’t care – the site and name are so established he doesn’t need rankings. He is the perfect example of a good website making it without any spamming or popup hells.
He is not working on SEO or spamming or anything of the sort, he doesn’t need to. He is working on relationships with players and casinos.
Casinomeister, like him or not, is a perfect example of a quality site not using a domain name that is a keyword and coining his own instead. He is a perfect example of a site that is high enough quality to snub the whole SEO business.
I agree about the content spam thing – I don’t see any harm if a quality site with content puts links up in blogs. It seems, however, that the mindset that is behind a thought-out website is the same mindset that doens’t do the blog spamming gig. Well, not with utilities that’ll get them on 1,000’s of blogs.
My site #1 for “casino games” in Yahoo – and that’s without blog spam, unless you want to count that one day when I submitted to a handful by hand, but that accounts for maybe .05% of all my incoming links.
Have another site #1 for “slot games” on yahoo, and that is definitely without any monkey business. Still can’t figure that one out.
I have to admit, thought, that I paid for links on a couple sites with huge forums and zillions of pages, and my link pop has freakin zoomed off the charts. I didn’t expect that, now I’m sure google is going to tell me to go to hell. Not renewing those links! I think they’ll do more harm than good in the long run. Didn’t have them when I got great serps in the first place, this was an ill-thought out attempt to hold good spots in the face of blog spamming competition. My bad. Live and learn.
Just viewing someones backlinks on yahoo who’s a member here and he’s made quite a few posts in this thread complaining about spam, he’s got 100’s of domains that have gambling terms in them and loads that don’t, it looks like he’s used some kind of content generator to make the pages, a user would not be intrested in the pages and it’s clearly only to try and manipulate the search results, he’s got a couple of what i would call main sites and he’s linking to them from is hundreads of spammy :spam4: domains, and it’s clearly paying off as he ranks well on a couple of search engines. I don’t understand why this person is complaining and :spam: spamming :spam: at the same time, does he think it’s ok if he spams :spam4: .
Not well enough, unfortunatelly…
I agree about the content spam thing – I don’t see any harm if a quality site with content puts links up in blogs
Thank you, thank you, thank you. On topic spam is still on topic.
For all those complaining about blog spam (from a webmaster point of view not a blog owner point of view) I am awaiting the 10 keyphrases that provide rubbish information for searchers.
Fergie wrote:I agree about the content spam thing – I don’t see any harm if a quality site with content puts links up in blogs.
That’s a very unfortunate statement…You don’t have a problem with a company using unethical methods to get customers as long as their product is of quality…
very weird logic you have.
If Microsoft ever has the need to spam one of their pages to the top of any search engine I have no problem with it because I trust their information and know it will always be current at the time of publification (spelling?)
Likewise if BMW wants to use “unethical” methods to get one of their product pages to the top I couldn’t care less.
google looks down at Blog Spamming just as bad as some one buying links for pr yet you all think its ok to buy links ? but tell on others bloging im not here to fight but you want to bitch about the rules flow them or stop bitching about
If Microsoft ever has the need to spam one of their pages to the top of any search engine I have no problem with it because I trust their information and know it will always be current at the time of publification (spelling?)
this is of course a facist outlook – and a fucking scary statement. geesh
That’s a very unfortunate statement:
You don’t have a problem with a company using unethical methods to get customers as long as their product is of quality…
I agree with playsafe here.
you know, buying links and trading links is one thing – the website author knows and regulates what is happening on his site – he isn’t being flogged by unwanted / unrequested links. Google knows this is going on and has control of the weight it assigns to the links, therefore all parties are knowing what is going on. Spam links are different. Is it okay to steal a bums money because he is asleep? This really goes back to that old argument “is it okay for someone to enter your house because your door is unlocked”
What if I have a personal blog and for whatever reason you tarnish up my family pictures and dialog with your casino ads… hmmm… is that okay?
So we’ve all been reduced to running around trading links, buying links, and spamming.
IS THIS THE LIFE YOU WANT? I want to build quality websites myself… playing little tricks on each other is pretty childish. Why should anyone be exempt from the rules of the game?
So in closing, gather up all your integrity and try something worth while. If you try the tricks some people are talking about in this thread you’ll get left behind in the innumberable amount of future google upates to come…
Slowly, one by one, your tricks will expire … and then, only sites that offer things will be left.
Those who are at the top for legitimate reasons will remain there without any effort and will win the game. Others will still be looking around for things to float on and you may be able to tread water for awhile… but you’ll get tired.
:clapper: goodnight
Isn’t it funny that no matter what is going on you can always relate it to what’s right and wrong?
It seem’s we’re always talking about the same thing no matter what the content? For instance this thread is analgous to world politics right now:
The world can share, trade, play fair, love, give and try to figure out global warming, OR we can lie, cheat, murder and steal with no regard for those whom we vicitimize on the way to the top.
Another interesting thought would be the analogy of giving a blowjob to the boss to get a raise. Not only is it unfair; like spam it is disgusting. True it’s an unfair world out there but do you really want to lower yourself to the level of those who make it unfair?
Pardon my french but,…FUCKING A, blackhawk :thumbsup: You said it all and I agree whole heartedly with what you said in both of your posts. :guitar: Rock on.
I would have to place the blame mostly on the search engines themselves.
They were the force behind the “SEO”. Why would you show backlinks and other information for a website? I mean, when would a regular Internet user check, even care about, the backlinks of a website? Or how many other pages “contain the term”? Never.
If the SEs would have kept secret to how they rank websites, this would have never happened. Webmasters are human, too, and most of them would do anything to make more money. Sad but true.
If the search engines leave something that could be manipulated, well, it will be manipulated.And what is the difference between exchanging links with, for example, hotel-related website, and buying a link on hotel-related website? None, except the price. Either way it’s unrelated website…
Then, what is the difference between exchanging links with hotel-related website and posting a message on hotel-related blog? The only difference is that you did not ask for permission, but generally speaking, you have been granted the permission to post anything on a blog, even an URL, every blog gives you the option to post URL, which means you are encouraged to post your URL…Don’t get me wrong (because I know you will
), all I’m trying to do is look at things the way they really are.On another note, 1 of every 4 spam emails are for Viagra. Pfizer, the maker of Viagra is teaming up with Microsoft to reduce the spam…
I don’t think the SE’s are too blame. None have given out their magic formula. Lots of observation and controlled tests have given us all an insight into what factors are weighted more than others.
So in closing, gather up all your integrity and try something worth while. If you try the tricks some people are talking about in this thread you’ll get left behind in the innumberable amount of future google upates to come…
That is of course unless you change and adept to the new ‘tricks’.
Slowly, one by one, your tricks will expire … and then, only sites that offer things will be left.
I hope one day this is true, then the WWW will be a very valuable place of information. THEN what will happen? People will just copy everyone elses content.
IS THIS THE LIFE YOU WANT? I want to build quality websites myself… playing little tricks on each other is pretty childish. Why should anyone be exempt from the rules of the game?
Fine then, build your quality websites. But then take some time and look at reality. You can have the best product/site/anything in the world but if you don’t have effective advertising nobody will be able to enjoy what you have to offer.
What if I have a personal blog and for whatever reason you tarnish up my family pictures and dialog with your casino ads… hmmm… is that okay?
Protect your blog and disallow comments after a certain time period. If you are regularly maintaining your blog then there will be minimal work involved to keep it spam free. I am talking about unwanted and unloved blogs that are literally just floating around in cyberspace.
Another interesting thought would be the analogy of giving a blowjob to the boss to get a raise. Not only is it unfair; like spam it is disgusting. True it’s an unfair world out there but do you really want to lower yourself to the level of those who make it unfair?
It’s not unfair. You think it’s unfair that people are willing to do things to suceed that you mentally can not? While we’re at it why don’t we complain that only women are allowed to work at strip bars, or that the majority of construction workers are men. Not that I’d do it, but if someone was willing to give Sergy Bin a BJ to get #1 positions accross the board then I would not complain.
For everybody against blog spam, I am still awaiting my 10 keyphrases.
MSN #1 – Gambling
How relevant! :sarcasm:
