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I agree too. Excellent points and all true. Webmasters who value quality content and site design do NOT like spammers and short cut artists.
Guys this is a great thread lets keep it clean, so far so good, I just dont want it to erupt into any personality battles.
“Big woop, whats next, your going to tell me your dads bigger than mine?”
*You* mentioned it, and now in typical fashion you run away from it. This is *your* attempt at legitimacy. But bottom feeding fails utterly here too, as it does by every measure.
“Uh, no. The interests of both are to grab as much traffic as they can.”
Wrong, as is obvious to everyone else.
Fergie wrote:Great posts, classics and blackhawk.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.I agree 100%
Classics wrote:“Big woop, whats next, your going to tell me your dads bigger than mine?”*You* mentioned it, and now in typical fashion you run away from it. This is *your* attempt at legitimacy. But bottom feeding fails utterly here too, as it does by every measure.
(And Dominque, please stop. This gets so old. This is not the GPWA. Try and be an adult.)
“Uh, no. The interests of both are to grab as much traffic as they can.”
Wrong, as is obvious to everyone else.
So what if i built 20 websites and used blog spamming to get them to the top? you would receive very little traffic because any thing outside of 20 positions receives very little traffic. I would of knocked your websites below mine and that would seriously affect your income, would you be telling people it’s ok to spam then? don’t think so, you would be reporting these sites.
I aleady have a site that ranks top in google so i didn’t make this post because i couldn’t compete, i have competed and i’m winning the war.
The fact is it’s took me 18 months to get where i am and it pisses me off that someone can sit there for 5 mins click submit and thats there days work done.
Spam is spam whichever way you put it, and it’s a war i will continue to fight.
If you had a forum or blog on your site would you be bothered if i spammed it 50 times a day?
For what’s its worth – spending all your time here complaining about it to us isn’t accomplishing much. That blogging is just the start of it – heck your competitors have just purchased several additional keywords targeting your website(s) via numerous malware applications.
Swim or drown :wavey:
cyclone, either quote the right message, or learn what “quotation marks” mean…..
(You are attributing ideas to me that aren’t mine.)
Dear Dominique there would have been more insults if we’d know the complete list of criminals on THIS BOARD who do Blog and guestbook SPAM..
I think about ‘somebody’ who scores a total of 491,462 on marketleap in link popularity (99% from blogs/guestbook/product review in shopping sites etc..)
(that’s probably more than the score of all sites of people here added together AND gambling.com AND 888.com AND goldenpalace.com)Someone on this board very proud of his PR7 site and asking for REAL LINK TRADES with other webmasters here… Seems like Lady Luck goes far for some people…
This ‘person’ sure have a merry christmas with top listing on all search engines and for all major keywords. If you are the kind of person who feels guilty about nothing then SPAM is for you…
But just have a look to sites spammed in blogs you will see RAPE sites and so on… I think it shows well the kind of webmasters and ‘persons’ they are.I agree about what has been said earlier, and although posting their url HERE isnt, reporting them to all search engines is a good idea.
I’m a ‘not satisfied by results form’ spammer ! :rasta: :shooter:
PEACE
Presto Chango! The thread has magically been veered back on track and reopened. Please keep discussions on topic and non personal
We now return to our regularly scheduled programming :guitar:
The bloggers themselves and Google are the only ones that can fix this. If the Google algorithm would not be so dependent on quantity of back links people would not waste their time doing this. It’s the same reason people put their sites in their signatures – more back links. If it isn’t crystal clear to everybody, links are the way to get results in Google.
From what I’ve seen, for every site you may get Google to remove there will be thousands ready to take their place with the same tactics because they know they have no chance of competing otherwise. Because they don’t wish to or can’t wait the amount of time it takes in the natural aging of a site. It’s fine to say they can compete but what is left out is that in Google it will be a good period of time before they can do so.
I look at this as manipulation rather than spam. Spam is the unsolicited garbage you get in your email every day. What does it matter to the searcher how the site ended up in the top ten as long as it’s relevant to their search query? As for the blogger, they own their site. If they don’t wish to have tons of links for viagra, online casino, car loans etc. it is within their power to do something about it. The blogs where I see this is where the owner hasn’t been around in a long time. Any popular blog with lots of current traffic doesn’t seem to have this problem.
There is no such thing as getting enough people wishing to link to your gambling site (one way) because you have “quality content” and bringing your site to the top of the SERPS. (well, maybe if you’re site has been around 5 years) It’s all manipulation, the blog links, the message board links, the bought links, the interlinking of hundreds of your own sites, internal linking, the directory links, reciprocal links, all of them. As long as Google allows it will continue. It use to bug me a little but now I just figure its another way of competing and my time would be better served by working on my own sites. Like I said before, it may not be without risk, now or in the future. I’d prefer to have a lot of these blogs available for advertising rather than take the chance on being shut out because I pissed them off.
It’s not just Google. Yahoo pays attention to backlinks too.
I’ll admit that I have spammed blogs (and still do, when I’m extremely bored or fustrated with current rankings. Usually after 2 minutes I get bored and stop so no comments please.). I see this as a game and the person at the top wins. Every game has fair players and cheaters. When the cheaters are caught out the fair players are satisfied temporarily. The cheaters simply find a newer and more efficient way of cheating. Many play a combination of both.
Fact is, It’s irrelevant weather or not a site is spammed to the top or not. On topic spam is still on topic.
Blog owners. If you don’t like spam, then do something about it! As f&p said:
If they don’t wish to have tons of links for viagra, online casino, car loans etc. it is within their power to do something about it. The blogs where I see this is where the owner hasn’t been around in a long time. Any popular blog with lots of current traffic doesn’t seem to have this problem
One last thing. Submitting reports to Google and Yahoo won’t help. This is not a new tactic. ALL search engines know of this and I would be willing to bet they are searching for new ways to filter this out.
EyesCoffee: did you read the link from Joeyl?
here is a excerpt:
And that appears to be the only way in this software (outside of writing my own scripts to deal with comment spam) to alleviate annoying comments from gambling and sex sites.
SOOOOOOOO….
Think for a moment that this affiliate business, is our “occupation” and not our “life”
So even if you think it’s fair in your occupation to do this crap, what do you think about the way you’re effecting this poor sap above who is changing blogging software because of people like you and others at “sex” sites who perpetually attack his blog with un-related comments.
You’re not beating this guy out of money – he isn’t even in the race.
You’re trampling over peoples sites so that you can clobber others in our industry at the expense of innocent peoples websites?
THINK ABOUT THIS.
It’s not too much different then lighting candles and spending extra time making a fancy dinner for your wife. You sit down to eat it take one bite, and RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIING
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIING
ooops… just a friendly telemarketer, dear, hold on a moment?
NOT ME. That shit really disturbs the quality of life. :shooter:
You’re doing the same thing by spamming other peoples websites. :crazy:
If they don’t wish to have tons of links for viagra, online casino, car loans etc. it is within their power to do something about it. The blogs where I see this is where the owner hasn’t been around in a long time. Any popular blog with lots of current traffic doesn’t seem to have this problem
Yup, just like I can hang up the phone on a telemarketer. Doesn’t mean it’s fun, or that you’re not wasting my time. Or that you’re not invading my privacy.
To say that you SPAM when “you’re extremely bored or fustrated with current rankings” is akin to saying “When I’m bored, I waste other people time to see if something happens”
It also seems to indicate that the “SPAM=sites positioned above mine” mantra probably originated from spammers themselves and NOT someone who is trying to improve SE results by reporting the spam as indicated by someone else prior in this thread.
