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FIRST LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT SINGLE SIGN – IN IS
It Seems as though some people misunderstood what and how this effects them and have come to the community with inaccurate information to try seek answers without coming to the source for accurate info first.
SINGLE SIGN ON
This was done PURELY FOR THE PLAYERS BENEFIT ONLY ! and to make our group of casinos easier to Market and More attractive to affiliates
IT WORKS AS FOLLOWS
Single Sign-in
With EZ Play, you use an email address as your Single Sign-In username.
You choose one sign-up name and one password to use at all of the GrandPrive Casinos No need to have multiple account numbers and passwordsOne Wallet
Combine your accounts from all Grand Privé casinos and play with one wallet. Purchase at Casino Grand Bay and play at Jupiter Club Casino, or receive a bonus from Lake Palace Casino and wager it at Bella Vegas online – the choice is yours.
Your all-important loyalty points will, of course, also be consolidated and available for redemption at any casino.
Overall improvement
Faster downloads, less restrictions, more choice, ultimate freedom… eZ PLAY raises the industry standard.
EZ as that so simple !!
Please explain how that affects comissions.
Will comission be paid to affiliates for each player sign-up, whether it is a player who has signed up for another casino already or whether the player will be credited to the original affiliate at the original casino only?
You described a perfectly sensible player policy, but how does it affect commissions?
From your correspondence elsewhere it appears that you will crosspromote without crediting affiliates, as well as not credit any affiliate for players that are registered anywhere within the GP system.
How Does Single Sign – In Affect Affiliattes
HOW DOES SINGLE SIGN – IN AFFECT AFFILIATTESThe way it works is as follows
We have 7 Major Brands
1) CasinoGrandBay
2) Bella Vegas
3) Jupiter Club
4) Lake Palace
5) RoadHouseReels
6) FortuneJunction
7) JackpotWheelA Player can sign up at all 7 of these but have one account to access them all However
IF a player signs Up at Say Casino GrandBay through Affiliate A then he belongs to Affiliate A for Life and Affilate A will earn commission off this Player for Life Based on his Spend at CasinoGrandBay and Not at all of the Casinos in the GrandPrive Group up as he only signed up at CasinoGrandBay
The Same Player then Goes on to Download Jupiter Club Casino through a Banner on Affiliate B’s Website then He Belongs to Affiliate B for his Life at Jupiter Club casino and Affiliate B will earn commission based on his spend at Jupiter Club for life
We call each casino a session casino and base commission on what session casino the player is playing in or has played at even though he has the same account number and can play at any casino he chooses too or prefers.
SO
Player goes to CasinoGrandBay purchases $1000 in the month and then goes to Jupiter Club and purchases $5000
AFFILIATE A WILL EARN COMMISON ON THE $1000 SPEND AFTER DEDUCTIONS BASED ON THE FACT HE PURCHASED AND PLAYED AT SESSION CASINO GRANDBAY AND AFFILIATE B WILL EARN COMMSIION ON THE $5000 SPEND AFTER DEDUCTIONS BASED ON THE FACT HE PURCHASED AND PLAYED AT SESSION CASINO JUPITERCLUB
So YES the player has one account for all his accounts at the GrandPrive Group but affiliates earn commission on the player based on where he signed up and where he is playing
Basically a player could in Theory Belong to 7 Affiliates and all of them would earn commission from the player depending on what casino he plays at what banner he had downloaded from. if he had downloaded all 7 casinos through 7 different affiliate banners but was only playing at one of those casinos then only that affiliate would earn commission from the player
So he would still belong to the 6 other affiliates but they would not earn commissionfrom him unless he was purchasing and playing at the brand that they advertised as soon as he did start to purchase and play at the other 6 then they too would earn commission from him.I HOPE THIS EXPLAINS HOW THIS AFFECTS AFFILIATES but as you can see no money is getting stolen and nether are affiliateS getting cheated in any way all you need to do is get the player to purchase and play at the brand you got him to sign up at simple!
Ok, fair enough. One more question:
Now what happens if GP cross promotes the player to another casino? Does the affiliate who sent the player originally still get paid?
WHERE THE CONFUISON CAME IN ??
AGAIN this is due to the fact that some members of our program jumped to conclusions first before getting clarity on things from the source before they post here and scare the living day lights out of our ALL valued affiliates.
As I am in Control of My own Affiliate Book and have been tasked with increasing my player numbers etc i have been given the right to Grant affiliates a certain amount of Free money and Promotional Money to Help them on their Way and Increase their chances of getting a larger Player base to earn commissionn from
So i granted a number of them a Certain Budget of $10 No deposit offers that they could use to get New players
I was VERY VERY Specific as to what i required from them and it was simple
GET ME NEW PLAYERS ONLY!! by this I meant that they needed to bring in players into the GRANDPRIVE GROUP OF CASINOS that had no previous history with us nor had any previous accounts NEW PLAYERS
Once I had verified they were indeed NEW to the GrandPrive Group of Casinos and Not ONE BRAND i would apply the credits
This Had nothing to do with Affiliate commission or How we Pay This Was soley a Promotion I ran for My book of affiliates so
So Affiliates were asked to send me the players accounts so could verify if they were a New account to our Group and once i did this verifictaion I credited the accounts with the $10 Free. Again Nothing to do with commission ? Not Sure where that came from?
So if a player had accounts with JC,BV and LP and then saw this promotion advertised on an affiliate Site and Downloaded CGB Yes he has a New account with CGB but did not qualify for the $10 free as he had accounts with the Group allready.
He was not credited the $10 Free becuase of this but he still belongs to the affiliate and will still generate commision based on his spend at CGB even though he had other accounts at other casinos in our Group.
I Just did Not credit Him the $10 Free as he is Not a new Player at Our Group
Nothing to do with Commission . I hope this resolves some of the confusion caused.
MILES
WHERE THE CONFUISON CAME IN ??
AGAIN this is due to the fact that some members of our program jumped to conclusions first before getting clarity on things from the source before they post here and scare the living day lights out of our ALL valued affiliates.
As I am in Control of My own Affiliate Book and have been tasked with increasing my player numbers etc i have been given the right to Grant affiliates a certain amount of Free money and Promotional Money to Help them on their Way and Increase their chances of getting a larger Player base to earn commissionn from
So i granted a number of them a Certain Budget of $10 No deposit offers that they could use to get New players
I was VERY VERY Specific as to what i required from them and it was simple
GET ME NEW PLAYERS ONLY!! by this I meant that they needed to bring in players into the GRANDPRIVE GROUP OF CASINOS that had no previous history with us nor had any previous accounts NEW PLAYERS
Once I had verified they were indeed NEW to the GrandPrive Group of Casinos and Not ONE BRAND i would apply the credits
This Had nothing to do with Affiliate commission or How we Pay This Was soley a Promotion I ran for My book of affiliates so
So Affiliates were asked to send me the players accounts so could verify if they were a New account to our Group and once i did this verifictaion I credited the accounts with the $10 Free. Again Nothing to do with commission ? Not Sure where that came from?
So if a player had accounts with JC,BV and LP and then saw this promotion advertised on an affiliate Site and Downloaded CGB Yes he has a New account with CGB but did not qualify for the $10 free as he had accounts with the Group allready.
He was not credited the $10 Free becuase of this but he still belongs to the affiliate and will still generate commision based on his spend at CGB even though he had other accounts at other casinos in our Group.
I Just did Not credit Him the $10 Free as he is Not a new Player at Our Group
Nothing to do with Commission . I hope this resolves some of the confusion caused.
MILES
First we have not Done this for a Long Time But the Affiliate who Originaly Signed up the Player will always and for Life get Paid as Long as the Player is Purchasing and Playing at the session Casino you signed him up at.
It is up to the affiliate to make sure that their Player Purchases and Plays at the Brand you signed him Up at
We will never cease to Pay Commisions to anyone as Long as the Players are Playing and Purchasing at our Group
We are Merly Trying to Get Players to Experince all our Different Casinos and What they Offer if a Player Decides He Likes One Brand Over another and Decides not to Play then thats a Decision they have made and we cannot Influence that Our Hope is that This never Happens and they Play at all 7
Its the exact same thing as a Player not Liking any of our Casinos they then Stop Playing and Move on to another Group or Casino the affiliate would No longer earn commission from us becuase the player no longer Plays with Us
Miles
Ok, the session casino.
That means you can cross promote the player and cease to pay comissions.
I will not credit old accounts at all.
The deal with all my affiliates is for New players ONLY!
If this is Not acceptable I will with drawe My sponsorships.
I am not crediting People who have old accounts with GP
New account Holders Only rember we are single Sign on Now so if you have an account at One you have an account at all.
I don’t need old players we want New depositing Players.
Are you guys telling me that this whole thing was started over the quote here? I hope I’m wrong.
I understand why the casino would want new players to the group, when offering affiliates an extra bonus to use as a tool. In the past we had problems with the bonuses/promotions the affiliate team gave to forums due to players going from one forum to the next and doing nothing but claiming bonus/bonus/bonus, sometimes more than one on the same deposit. I’m sure nobody has to explain about bonus hunters and for example, people that may have an account at 5 Grand Prive casinos but sign-up for one of the flash casinos (as an example) just to get the Free $10 and then never play there again.
I was told by Yashin, when he was there… that each player we send each casino within the Grand Prive group, will still earn us commission regardless if they already have an account at another Grand Prive Casino, through another affiliate. And that the ‘single login’ did not affect us as affiliates in a negative way. Yashin explained to me in the past, after the ‘One Login’ came into affect.. the same as Miles has here.
If someone has any information otherwise, I’d like to know. But I personally don’t see the relation between what Miles said about the $10 Free promotion terms, and the way we’re commissioned.
For the record, my reports are viewing fine, loading quick, and updating very regular now. My income and stats are what I expect them to be. And I’ve been promoting Grand Prive for several years now also. They works very well for me.
I think we have clarified all but the cross promotion issue.
That is still a very important point, as it enables the casino group to simply move any player to another casino by offering a nice incentive and cease to pay comissions.
When that last point is clarified, I think we can put this to rest and chalk it up to a misunderstanding.
Already much of this has proven to be a misunderstanding.
So just to be totally clear Miles. If Grand Prive cross-promote casinos in their group to a player I have referred, I get no credit for that? Even though without me you would never have had that player to contact in the first place?
I really hope I got that wrong because that’s totally misunderstanding the concept of affiliates. Why would I want to send someone through your door if there was a chance I would later be cut out of the loop?
I can understand that if Affiliate B sends them to a 2nd casino he/she gets the credit. That’s fine.
Please clarify…am I right or wrong?
Thanks
Simmo!
Also, I may be getting stuck in the wording here, but something else is not quite clear to me:
The Same Player then Goes on to Download Jupiter Club Casino through a Banner on Affiliate B’s Website then He Belongs to Affiliate B for his Life at Jupiter Club casino and Affiliate B will earn commission based on his spend at Jupiter Club for life
What if the same player then goes on to download a second casino from my site? Will I get credit for this second download within the group? I think that is where the original misunderstanding came from.
With other words, let’s leave any additional affiliates out of it as obviously it is the most common business model that they should get credit for their referrals.
The remaining points to clear up are:
1. If a player downloads casino A from my site, and at a later date downloads casino B from my site, do I get credit for only casino A (the “session casino”) or both?
2. If a player downloads casino A from my site, and subsequently is cross promoted by GP to casino B, do I get credit for both casinos?
Thank you for your responses.
This sounds like something cpays would do. I’ll be removing all Grand Prive properties from my network very shortly.
1) You will get Comm on any Casino you Bring the Player too if he downlaods all 7 from banners on your site then youll earn Comm from all 7 casinos no matter where he plays as long as he is purchasing and playing
2) You both will earn commission if he plays and purchases at both casinos if the player decides he likes one Brand More than another and only plays at one casino the affiliate who signed him up there gets commisison but the player still belongs to you and if he returns to Play then youll continue to earn
Our offers are the same as are our promotions to all Casinos we do not cross market Casinos Rather we Promote our Group of Casinos as an Umbrella Casino at which the Player has the Freedom to choose were he plays
Dominique;151461 wrote:Also, I may be getting stuck in the wording here, but something else is not quite clear to me:What if the same player then goes on to download a second casino from my site? Will I get credit for this second download within the group? I think that is where the original misunderstanding came from.
With other words, let’s leave any additional affiliates out of it as obviously it is the most common business model that they should get credit for their referrals.
The remaining points to clear up are:
1. If a player downloads casino A from my site, and at a later date downloads casino B from my site, do I get credit for only casino A (the “session casino”) or both?
2. If a player downloads casino A from my site, and subsequently is cross promoted by GP to casino B, do I get credit for both casinos?
Thank you for your responses.
LandofOz;151463 wrote:This sounds like something cpays would do. I’ll be removing all Grand Prive properties from my network very shortly.[FONT="]Please Note this Was a decision That our Management Made to go Single Sign on this is by no means something other Groups are doing This is A GrandPrive offering as it sets us apart from the competition[/FONT]
