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@Caesar 195092 wrote:
Have you guys even read our report which has been 100% backed up by Robin? The audit leader?
The results of the audit are clear: 1 of 8 players was untracked due to an IP mismatch, not 3. NONE of the 8 deposits are missing, all of them are accounted for.
Does it seem right and fair that you won’t consider working with us even though the whitepaper has been proven to be mistaken?
I understand your initial reactions but you need to read our response and listen to Robin as it was HER excel file the whitepaper was written from. You guys need to realize that an audit WAS done and the single untracked player has been fully explained by the fact that his IP changed between the time he downloaded and deposited.
Why are you people still trying to hurt us now that you know the facts? What have we done wrong exactly?
I personally think somebody OUTSIDE OF CAP should be the audit leader -Volunteering Casinomeister lol .It seems right to me that I wont risk working with a unproven group whose best argument is that it takes US players when there are dozens of Programs we can try that others here highly recommend.
Bush said Iraq had WMD -should we have believed that white paper too? Everyone has to make the decision for him/herself and I just made mine based on gut,instict and the original facts .I don’t think it’s fair to make a mountain out of a molehill now that the entire audit has been flushed down the toilet. I appreciate people trying to save face but the bottom line is this:
1 player was untracked (NOT 3) and we have all of his data readily available proving it was neither intentional nor were we able to prevent it from happening. The IP can change all it wants, it just can’t change from the time the player downloads the .exe file to the time they install it. Ask yourself what the possibility of you as an individual downloading the .exe file, leaving it there, and installing it later after you’ve reconnected from a different IP. The possibility exists but we have hundreds of registrations a day and this is the first time it’s ever happened. Lastly, every other time the IP address has changed in between, we’ve still caught the player via a cookie but in this case, there wasn’t even a cookie as he probably had Norton AntiSpam or some kind of cookie blocker enabled. Our tracking system is so advanced that we track with Session ID’s also. This means that under normal circumstances, you get your tracking even if the player has ALL COOKIES DISABLED. Try it and see for yourself.
We’ve provided the IP address changes including timestamps to prove it. We are admitting that this is the first time it has ever happened and that the player tracking doesn’t usually get lost in this case but it did in THIS case.
One of eight, guys. One of eight and one with a very good explanation. Given you have no other audit to compare this to, I think these are excellent results. Be reasonable and before you roast us, wait until you see what the next audit reveals. At less than 10% default traffic, you guys are getting more of your players tracked with us than with any other platform and you can take that to the bank.
casinobonusguy;195094 wrote:I have a question on this -is this rome saying it diDnt count because of change in IP?Or Cap.If rome then this is awful not to track a player because of change in ip -ips change all the time -at least mine does.The affiliate Bonustreak’s player (Peralis) was initially logged and tracked when he came to our site via http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=163991 His IP at the time was 196.3.94.228. He however only downloaded our software at this time, and did not register an account. His IP then changed to 196.3.94.225, where he then registered an account. Unfortunately, this change in IP led to him no longer being associated with Bonustreak, as his identification to our system had changed. The data backing this up can be seen below:
What about me Joshua?
I still don’t see or hear an explanation from you about my account? and i know you know who i am so don’t try to say you can t check my account. and like i said, i have SCreenShots! so i am waiting for your excuse on this. You sound like a child crying because you got caught and now you think you have lied your way out. but i am sorry, that doesn’t fly here, not when i have YOUR stats to prove otherwise.
pat
Thank you for clearing up the IP thing and i agree most will install when download is finished.
Honestly i have to say i am disappointed that CAP only used 8 players to perform an audit. It seemed like such big efforts were put into this and i was expecting to see 25/50/100 players used in this test.I am really sorry to say that in these days a second audit wouldn’t even help or a 3rd or 4th.Most people would be suspecious of it after CAP came swinging out the gate with audit one.At less than 10% default traffic, you guys are getting more of your players tracked with us than with any other platform and you can take that to the bank.
I would hope the other managers are going to jump on that one.For somebody who makes $xxx,xxx a month I don’t want to lose 10% of that.I expect 100% tracking ,that’s why you guys spend all this money on programs and coding.From what we can clearly see (and anyone else who reads the report), a player came from you, it was tracked correctly, both deposits were tracked correctly. What exactly is your complaint?
Triple777s;195100 wrote:What about me Joshua?I still don’t see or hear an explanation from you about my account? and i know you know who i am so don’t try to say you can t check my account. and like i said, i have SCreenShots! so i am waiting for your excuse on this. You sound like a child crying because you got caught and now you think you have lied your way out. but i am sorry, that doesn’t fly here, not when i have YOUR stats to prove otherwise.
pat
I think what they mean is that they get 10% from non aff sources. How that is a big deal for affiliates is a big mystery to me though. Anyways whoever got it so horribly wrong bears a big responsibility and the drama has turned me off. That’s all I’m saying. If I hear success stories from people who do well with you some way down the road I may change my mind.
One of eight, guys. One of eight and one with a very good explanation. Given you have no other audit to compare this to, I think these are excellent results. Be reasonable and before you roast us, wait until you see what the next audit reveals. At less than 10% default traffic, you guys are getting more of your players tracked with us than with any other platform and you can take that to the bank.
I have a head cold and read this again ,can you please explain this one to me?.i thought you mean 10% not tracking isn’t bad.You misunderstood what I was trying to say. In saying “less than 10%” I’m referring to all of our players. It may surprise you, but not all of our players come from affiliates. Well over 30% of our traffic comes from our own SEO efforts, media campaigns, press releases, and other offline media such as magazine ads etc. While that 30% is nowhere near the quality of the traffic you guys send us, it still accounts, for 10% of our business.
We wish it was more but since we’re relatively new, our own SEO efforts will take time translate to more direct traffic for us.casinobonusguy;195101 wrote:Thank you for clearing up the IP thing and i agree most will install when download is finished.
Honestly i have to say i am disappointed that CAP only used 8 players to perform an audit. It seemed like such big efforts were put into this and i was expecting to see 25/50/100 players used in this test.I am really sorry to say that in these days a second audit wouldn’t even help or a 3rd or 4th.Most people would be suspecious of it after CAP came swinging out the gate with audit one.At less than 10% default traffic, you guys are getting more of your players tracked with us than with any other platform and you can take that to the bank.
I would hope the other managers are going to jump on that one.For somebody who makes $xxx,xxx a month I don’t want to lose 10% of that.I expect 100% tracking ,that’s why you guys spend all this money on programs and coding.[/quote]
Your report doesn’t show what my stats at your site show, How about p layers cashing out 180$? when there were no players this month?? how about having a player dep. $75 in Dec. and there were no wins according to your stats, and no withdrawals for dec. according to your stats, but i only earned 1.44 ??? How about Nov. stats, you show a $75 dep. with no winner and no withdrawals, but i am minus almost $37 ???? what about this?? any why doesn’t the report you put up here show this??? do you make up reports as you go?
I still don’t get quite whats going on with the second deposits?
At first, accusations that players were just keeping the money.
And then an explanation that the stats reports are flawed:
“Currently with TopGame, we have a limitation that if you select a date-range beyond just the current month, you will only see the current month”It does seem common sense though that 0 out of 8 tracking was not right.
Any casino that did this would be caught out right away.They whole audit thing seems like a good idea, but any casino hoping to cheat is not realistically going to shave affiliates right away – Maybe after a few months when it is harder to track..
Hi Scott,
Please read our report and ask Robin if you need clarification. The second deposits disappearing had absolutely nothing to do with our reports. It was simply that the players did NOT make the second deposits in some cases and in the other cases, the person who wrote the whitepaper, simply did not correctly read Robin’s excel sheet. All second deposits were either tracked, accounted for, or the players kept the money and didn’t deposit it at Rome at all. There is a full record of this and you’re welcome to confirm with Robin who is the Audit Team Leader.
ScottB;195108 wrote:I still don’t get quite whats going on with the second deposits?At first, accusations that players were just keeping the money.
And then an explanation that the stats reports are flawed:
“Currently with TopGame, we have a limitation that if you select a date-range beyond just the current month, you will only see the current month”It does seem common sense though that 0 out of 8 tracking was not right.
Any casino that did this would be caught out right away.They whole audit thing seems like a good idea, but any casino hoping to cheat is not realistically going to shave affiliates right away – Maybe after a few months when it is harder to track..
I really don’t understand what your issue is here. The player ID is: tamikasipke. This player deposited in November which was tracked, player deposited in December, which was tracked, player requested withdrawal in January. What is the problem here? lol
Triple777s;195107 wrote:Your report doesn’t show what my stats at your site show, How about p layers cashing out 180$? when there were no players this month?? how about having a player dep. $75 in Dec. and there were no wins according to your stats, and no withdrawals for dec. according to your stats, but i only earned 1.44 ??? How about Nov. stats, you show a $75 dep. with no winner and no withdrawals, but i am minus almost $37 ???? what about this?? any why doesn’t the report you put up here show this??? do you make up reports as you go?You know what, i am done. i have handed my account info over to those in charge to see themselves i am not going to sit here and go back and forth with you, and your little sarcastic “lol”. I have a minus amount for nov. and i have a 1.44 for dec. and i have a withdrawal of 180 for jan. and in the report you posted here, you show two withdawals from all 8 players involved, one for 800 and one for 163$…..?? wheres the 180$….and where is the dep and for jan. and the supposed winning amount for jan.??? this is ridiculous, and if i don;t get a good enough explanation instead of little “lol”‘s i will not promote, and i will tell my players to stay away period, i don’t have time for this crap.
My stats show nothing, and i mean nothing, of what your report shows here. period. LOL
Goldfinger;195087 wrote:as I said before I will not list them anytime soon. If I hear some positive stories I may change my mind but until that happens I’ll steer cleer of Rome.Here you go:
Henri;194478 wrote:I have to agree with two posts.
The first one from “Bonusgeek”
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The second quoted post of “Bonusstreak” by “Inspiration”.It is always hard in the first few months to evaluate an Affiliate Program :sarcasm: but when you have a lot of US traffic, and your main clients got ordered to stop taking any new registrations from the USA, then you have to make a move.
Rome was for us one of the first platforms we used as we use to only stick to MG. In the three months I have been working with Josh, we’ve had a very good start with good amounts of registrations and purchasing players. After 1 month we already had better figures than the small MG operator we were working with for the past 8 months. We are only talking about a couple of hundred purchasing players, but knowing it was a new platform, Top Game was really new to most of the guys out there and we believe results were good. Three months later, we are doing better and better to the point where Rome just entered our top 10 (:3eyes: out of 44 programs we’ve worked with over the past 4 years). I don’t believe in anything else than numbers as they are real tangible element of a program performance; and many people will understand my point when I say I was really worried about MG pulling out of the states; but having found a partner like Rome today, helped me feel more comfortable about the future.
I’m not saying that things have been perfect, we did have a few issues as we started but it was resolved within 24 hours. They have fast response time and most of all are available 24 hours a day for any problems, which is not the case with everyone today.
I do agree that they are young but they will grow and do better to achieve excellent results, as a start though, Rome is delivering above and beyond our expectations and even three months later keep on growing our numbers.
:hattip:And…
TheOsMan;194434 wrote:All,Gee, Rome Casino has been doing pretty well for LiveCasinoDirect.com, pretty much better every month since we got on with them, as far as i know.
Cheers,
Os.
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Bonusgeek;194424 wrote:It’s like all casinos James, they are gonna perform great for some affiliates and not so great for others. I for one am very pleased with their performance. My monthly deposits are already exceeding some programs I have been working for 2 years, so they are really doing a great job keeping my players at the tables.I think this new software is still in its infancy stage but if they continue to make progress with new slot games and what not then I can see them being a player in the industry in time. All and all I am quite pleased.
