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I talked with Jeff at Casino Blasters the day before yesterday. Should have posted yesterday but my pc was having major problems so I went out and bought a new laptop – it was time.
Jeff feels that those who are going to be rejected who have applied for admission to the White List have already been refused. In regard to Kahnawake and Antigua, a big concern for us, he is confident they will be approved and is working on that assumption.
If Kahnawake and Antigua are not approved, he will make sure we are informed here (he asked me to post this) and will, of course, be looking at yet another license. CB is licensed in both jurisdictions – so this would make three.
This is one of the best programs on the net and I would hate to lose them in the UK as well as in the US. Got to have them up somewhere :inlove:
ntaus
Doolally,
I just switched both my US portals to UK hosting.
Are you saying that every casino on there has to be White Listed???
I’m targetting the US – so what’s that about…
We’re talking major upheaval here and I won’t do it – losing my best programs.
By the way, does anyone know about Club World – the UK site – last I heard they were licensed in Netherlands Antilles and that jurisdiction was refused.
Guess if no-one posts I’ll have to call Jonathan. And here I was thinking I had one out of seven that was OK.
Costa Rica refused – that’s Gambling Wages and more… It’s just not on to have to take everyone down.
ntaus
I’m in the UK but have non-UK targeted .coms on US hosting. I guess that is compliant with the law now.
With regards to Antigua and Khanawake I am a bit sceptic. The new law’s priority imho is to make this an EU club no matter what they say about “measures to prevent under age and problem gambling”. I really wouldn’t bet on these two jurisdictions getting approved.
Originally Posted by Doolally
Changing the wording of certain articles so as not to incite gambling seems to be taking the most time.Inciting to gambling per se is not necessarily illegal.
The advertising code seems fairly explicit about what IS illegal:
The ASA will administer the codes and will respond to public concerns about gambling advertisements. In particular they will seek to ensure adverts don’t:
· portray, condone or encourage gambling behaviour that is socially irresponsible or could lead to financial, social or emotional harm;
· exploit the susceptibilities, aspirations, credulity, inexperience or lack of knowledge of children, young people or other vulnerable people;
· suggest that gambling can be a solution to financial concerns;
· link gambling to seduction, sexual success or enhanced attractiveness; or
· be likely to be of particular appeal to children or young persons, especially by reflecting or being associated with youth culture.But how do you define the first point? Encouraging gambling that could lead to financial harm – isn’t financial harm a very personal thing? How are websites meant to differentiate?
The definition is so broad that it’s all a grey area. You could say that any gambling could lead to financial harm, therefore it’s all illegal. But we should remember that this act was brought in to tighten up gambling in the UK, not to make it illegal as per UIGEA/Ports act.
Operators have to pass very strict Gambling Commission tests to get their licence:
all remote operators will have to:
· introduce measures to control continuous and repetitive play;
· ensure customers are made aware of how much time and money they have spent on their website;
· train staff to identify and deal with customers who may be affected by problem gambling;
· enable customers who feel they have a gambling problem to exclude themselves from the website;
· adhere to technical standards covering the functionality of games and the security and administration of the systems that provide the gambling facilities; and
· use the best publicly available information for age verification purposes, including random credit card checks to verify age. The Gambling Commission will follow this up with mystery shopping exercises using under-18s to ensure that operators are not allowing children to gamble online.My take on this is that if you’re advertising fully whitelist-approved casinos who adhere to this code of practice and who don’t therefore encourage irresponsible gambling, you’re not inciting illegal gambling.
I may be way off the mark with this, but if I am I think we’re all in trouble!
Can anyone with a legal background shed any light?
You might well be right about the euro only club, it seems that Netherlands Antilles were pretty amazed they got the knock back from the UK goverment after working along with them through all the steps of the process
http://www.curacao-law.com/2007/08/09/netherlands-antilles-not-on-uk-gambling-white-list/
Probably the world biggest and best Sportsbook Pinnacle is located there, they stopped taking US Customers earlier this year and were probably focusing on Europeans now, if others in Europe are to follow the UK i can’t imagine it will be long before they look elsewhere.
Also i think WilliamHill were pretty surprised by this decision as they appeared to leave it pretty late in the day before deciding to move to Gibraltar
http://www.pcw.co.uk/computeractive/news/2197051/william-hill-moves-gibraltar
@Goldfinger 137261 wrote:
I’m in the UK but have non-UK targeted .coms on US hosting. I guess that is compliant with the law now.
With regards to Antigua and Khanawake I am a bit sceptic. The new law’s priority imho is to make this an EU club no matter what they say about “measures to prevent under age and problem gambling”. I really wouldn’t bet on these two jurisdictions getting approved.
ntaus8, Did you get an answer from ClubWorld – they are the main casino site I promote and I’d be interested to know how to move forward.
So, is the conclusion about promoting non-white listed casino sites this:
i) If it’s a non .uk domain, hosted outside the UK and targeted to an international audience, then it’s OK to promote non-white list casinos ?
What this actually boils down to is that every affiliate who is hosted in the EU – wherever they target – is going to be forced to carry only White List casinos. From what everyone is saying it doesn’t matter if your site is a .com, .net or whatever. Also, don’t forget this isn’t just the UK – but the EU. Boggles the mind.
When I think about it a bit, I don’t see how the UK can really tell where we’re hosted. So either they plan to blacklist or in some way deal with every portal on the net with non-White Listed casinos or they’re going to spend lots of money doing research checking IPs, etc.
I should think it would make sense to stick to co.uk sites. There’s a tremendous amount of work in checking every portal on the net.
If it sounds like I’m freaking – it’s because I’m freaking :exclamati
We need some legal advice here…
ntaus
tryme,
I posted in CWC forum – and what I said was that I’ve sent Jonathan an email but, since this is a holiday weekend, don’t expect a reply until at least Tuesday.
ntaus
Maybe this document is of some help
but from what i gather it only list licences relating to those based in the UK ?
I have tried to create a white list for the UK bingo sites I currently feature. A lot of them have moved or are in the process of moving, and a few are still in non white listed areas, which I am debating whether to remove them completely from the sites.
What isn’t 100% clear is the correct displaying of bonuses and where we are with this. Since the majority of affiliate sites have some sort of bonus comparison or bonus listings, how “legal” is this now or what would be the correct way of displaying these?
I don’t suppose anyone has a list of who is white-listed? Even a list of who applied to Malta would help.
