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October 30, 2008 at 7:39 pm #784848AnonymousInactive
I think these audits are a great idea. :thumbsup:
To the programs that shave: better knock that off ASAP. If your program is “outed” here, your numbers will fall through the floor. :Cry:October 30, 2008 at 8:07 pm #784853AnonymousInactive
@Engineer 183831 wrote:
To the programs that shave: better knock that off ASAP. If your program is “outed” here, your numbers will fall through the floor. :Cry:
And I will put on my “heels and lipstick” and the pitbull in me will come looking for you. LOL :roflmao:October 30, 2008 at 8:27 pm #784856AnonymousInactive
Ï would gladly help you with this!
BarcleyOctober 30, 2008 at 8:58 pm #784862AnonymousInactive
Great idea, count me in! :banger:October 30, 2008 at 10:09 pm #784871AnonymousInactive
Shave me in, I mean shear me in, I mean count me in!October 30, 2008 at 11:21 pm #784879biggygMember
I just thought of something -Would casinos have affiliate details ,Ips etc already stored in their systems?If an affiliate signs up and plays as a player is there any way they would know this?There is one or two groups I am sure will fail this test .How would you decide which programs to start with Lou?We are willing to help if there is any casino we dont have an account with already :tongue:October 30, 2008 at 11:56 pm #784882AnonymousInactive
Sign me up pleaseOctober 31, 2008 at 12:51 pm #784952AnonymousInactive
Count me inNovember 1, 2008 at 7:09 am #785045AnonymousGuest
if you’re testing you do not want to :
have same last name, same area code, same county, same state … in other words if I were cheating you I’d make sure any signups within those areas always showed up. Anything that can be tied to you via geographic boundaries would always show up if I were cheating you.
and yes, anything a dumb ol’ country boy like me can think up … they’ve either done or are doing it now.
that takes out the most obvious chances of getting caught.
But then my friends I’d have moved way past that by now. but I don’t care to share them here.
if somebody wants to start a thread in the private area I’ll be glad to give my other 8 cents.
here’s the thing. bottom line is it is money spent very well (for those that can afford it), and the bigger guys should be funding the little guys because you’re easier to cheat and less likely to bitch about it because you’re already making good money … but it will add up in the end if you take the precautions of finding out who is honest with you.
fund some of us little guys to go play or if you can find credible players (not as easy as it sounds) you can have them test for you but this involves exact records and the more players an affiliate has … the more exact your records will need to be in order to get an idea.
you won’t be able to be perfect every time but if you fund one or two people to look like high rollers see what happens to them?
will they be invited to another casino without your tag? will they just disappear after a month or two?
its money well spent if you can afford it.
most times you can look at bottom line and tell the worst of them. if they don’t make money why are you keeping them around?November 3, 2008 at 5:16 am #785185neophyteMember
@Professor 183525 wrote:
CAP Audits Plan
4. Players will be assigned a specific slots game and began play.
5. We will monitor game play and pay out percentage for that machine.
err how is this going to work?
%age is reached / maintained in the long-run.
Unless you have a meaningful sample size (DAMNED BIG) your tests will be meaningless
p.s Are you gonna share the CPA?November 3, 2008 at 7:44 pm #785251AnonymousGuest
I think Alex is right on the % thing.
Really proud of you Lou for this idea though.
and for the most part it’s going to make a major difference especially for the smaller guys and I’ll tell you why.
anybody with any time under their belts in this industry knows the bigger get the better and I’m not faulting anybody for that … just saying that IMHO while the biggers may lose more … its the little guys who are hurt the worst and likely reamed the worst because you don’t want to bite the hand that feeds you too hard when there are others that only provide snacks that you can afford to lose IF they become disenchanted.
bottom line is it’ll be good for all involved including legitimate programs because they can finally do away with unjust accusations.
the only ones to really stand to lose are the losers who deserve it.November 3, 2008 at 9:25 pm #785269vladcizsolMember
Alex we are testing player tracking not the games or percentages they pay out. The quest here is to ensure that when new players sign up they are tracked. When deposits are made those are tracked and when subseuqent deposits are made those are tracked also. We are also on the lookout for emails from that casino with untracked links to other properties they may operate etc…
This are affiliate geared audits, NOT player or game audits.November 3, 2008 at 9:59 pm #785282neophyteMemberProfessor wrote:5. We will monitor game play and pay out percentage for that machine..
ok prof, just commenting on what you said in your OP:)November 3, 2008 at 10:15 pm #785288vladcizsolMember
By confining the tester to one machine and verifying thier cashout we do get rudementary data on the machine, but the ultimate goal is affiliate tracking vefirication.November 4, 2008 at 9:53 am #785337ChekcmeoutMember
I’d like to help also if i can be of any service :hattip: