"SEO is B*LLS**T"

Google has seen affiliates in all industries manipulating results with different tactics – it’s only fair they start basing the results on quality.

@bud405n 237591 wrote:

Back in 07 and 08 I was building my site more for visitors and not so much google. I had a pr 5 for a long time. Then I thought, hell man, I got a PR5, I’m gonna get cracking with my SEO and get it up to 7 or 8. Well that didnt work, I am now at a PR 2 LOL.

Now that March Madness is just about over and my slow months are approaching, I just might go back to 07 and 08 and not think so much about SEO and think more in terms of my guests.

As for you saying that 7 of the 10 sites on page 1 for no deposit bonus don’t belong. From my datacenter searching on g.co.uk sites 1,2,8 are exact match searches. #3 is a massive site with tons of content and inbound links. A few others are also massive sites with tons of inbound links. Maybe 2-3 of those sites shouldn’t be there.

Hi fonzi, i was actually going to post a follow up saying i was wrong about 7 out of 10, yes it is more like 3 that dont belong, one of them being mine, uknodeposit.co(.)uk but it thought it would be fun to get some some other insight, and yes you are right on most points alll except the age thing. This is where i think things are changing, some seo guys think that the new update that came in with panda3.3 a few weeks ago was to give less credit to anchot text links and more to brand links, well i dont agree as google have said they have “turned off” a ranking metric that they have used for many years, but wont say what it is, im going to go out on one here, but i think google no longer uses site age/domain age as a raning factor, and i think this because so many new sites are popping up, xecutable mentioned n another post how a new site he was helping on with not much content was ranking for good terms. If you think about it, and im no seo guy here, just a guy rambling, but as google is all about delivering relevant results, most searchs are to do with things that are happening now, like “earthquake in mexico” google will use social media, news etc to rank the top site, niot age or trust in the domain, hmm i dont know, like i said im ramblng. But i do think that google wants to give new sites a chance, like my site thats ranking front page at present, only has 65 pages and its less than 8 months old, but as i add almost a page a day, maybe google thinks this site is more relevant for ‘no deposit bonus’ beacsue its growing, more so than a site that has been solid on the front page for 6 years, hmm, im not even gonna read this post back, thats my thoughts

Fingers crossed this will be a good change that will only affect black hat SEO techniques.

Now that March Madness is just about over and my slow months are approaching, I just might go back to 07 and 08 and not think so much about SEO and think more in terms of my guests.

well thats the problem, if its factors such as rel=”nofollow” links, using things like pretty link to cloak your links or php redirects then we could be in trouble, also what about linking keywords within your content to your front page to boost rankings and vice versa, how about over optimised page titles and h1 tags? this whole thing just seems crazy, why try to penalise people who not only concentrating on producing great unique content, but also take a real interest in seo and want to compete with the big sites? after all this is what this is about, google trying to level the playing field, they have been trying to do that for years and look at some of the rubbish hitting the front page of google at the moment, im refering to google.co.uk (my target market) google ‘no deposit bonus’ which is a pretty good keyword in terms of amount of traffic and alot of sites aim to rank for this in the casino niche, 7 out of 10 sites on that front page shouldnt be there, i dont even think one of my sites deserves to be there to be honest, its only 60 pages or so and not even great content, so google is not leveling the playing field, its just letting poor quality sites with little care about content or seo rank
ok rant over
on a lighter note Jill, i received my CAP hoody ” title=”” class=”bbcode_smiley” /> and will be sending what i promised soon

1) Thanks for the breakdown and your insights… I do have to side with fonzi however… Content is still King. As cheesey as it sounds, it’s true. What confirmed this was the most recent Google Panda update that we just endured.

2) And Hooray! So happy you receive it safe and sound… And looking forward to the follow-up ” title=”” class=”bbcode_smiley” />

As for you saying that 7 of the 10 sites on page 1 for no deposit bonus don’t belong. From my datacenter searching on g.co.uk sites 1,2,8 are exact match searches. #3 is a massive site with tons of content and inbound links. A few others are also massive sites with tons of inbound links. Maybe 2-3 of those sites shouldn’t be there.

Also keep in mind that every site listed is over 6 years old which is a G factor that most people overlook. An older site will outrank a newly registered site almost every time. This is one reason we rarely buy new domains anymore. It’s easier and better to just pay a small premium for an aged one.

btw, I have nothing to do with any of the 10 sites on page 1 but I can see why most of them rank as they do.

I know it’s frustrating, we’ve all been there, you just need to find ways to work through the frustration and also realize that it’s no longer 2006 and we need to bust our asses in order to get decent rankings.

I’m just confused… how are they defining if a site is “overly search engine optimized”???

well thats the problem, if its factors such as rel=”nofollow” links, using things like pretty link to cloak your links or php redirects then we could be in trouble, also what about linking keywords within your content to your front page to boost rankings and vice versa, how about over optimised page titles and h1 tags? this whole thing just seems crazy, why try to penalise people who not only concentrating on producing great unique content, but also take a real interest in seo and want to compete with the big sites? after all this is what this is about, google trying to level the playing field, they have been trying to do that for years and look at some of the rubbish hitting the front page of google at the moment, im refering to google.co.uk (my target market) google ‘no deposit bonus’ which is a pretty good keyword in terms of amount of traffic and alot of sites aim to rank for this in the casino niche, 7 out of 10 sites on that front page shouldnt be there, i dont even think one of my sites deserves to be there to be honest, its only 60 pages or so and not even great content, so google is not leveling the playing field, its just letting poor quality sites with little care about content or seo rank
ok rant over
on a lighter note Jill, i received my CAP hoody ” title=”” class=”bbcode_smiley” /> and will be sending what i promised soon

Just work on great content, seo will follow and i think that is what they are saying. Sites with 40% keyword density and broken english to stuff them in, 900 links with that anchor text and the other 70 links are natural deserve to get hit.

I think you are right about that!

@rmeeuwsen 237759 wrote:

Doesn’t matter if it does or not.
Traffic is traffic – money is money – they got both.

And so does google.

They both have a product that works and people use.

What a ‘different’ world it would be without a huge facebook type site!
(in comparison, myspace stinks).