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The real pain doesn’t come from the affiliates, it comes from the players.
Blacklisting and posting on playerboards about what is going on is what actually gets the results.
Bitching here doesn’t, it’s just to give them a chance to fix it before it hurts.
Dominique wrote:The real pain doesn’t come from the affiliates, it comes from the players. Blacklisting and posting on playerboards about what is going on is what actually gets the results.:whipper” :whipper” :whipper” :whipper” :whipper”
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I’m with Dom it will be time to take this to the players soon, They have a download casino and I myself have been pushing that not the sportsbook side, so I will be more then happy to send my players to another worthy RTG program!
Dominique wrote:
Last year Referback decided to change a clause in the aff contract.
It set an avalanche in motion. Soon Wagerjunction, Money Mechanics, Fortune and Vegas Partners did the same.That is why I have never had any of these programs on my list. When I started as an affiliate last year, I carefully studied CAP forum boards and decided that I’d be better off without the programs that do not have much respect for affiliates and work like a weather-cock, one day looking in one direction, another – in the opposite. I suspect that I was not the only affiliate who avoided those programs because of the problem…
In my opinion, the bottom line is: a program either has a certain condition unambiguously stated and clearly written in its T&C, or it is simply not there. It is beyond my comprehension when I am told to read in between the lines in a business contract. All informal talks about differential approach to each affiliate’s case and potentially negotiable conditions are not businesslike.betprize wrote:In my opinion, the bottom line is: a program either has a certain condition unambiguously stated and clearly written in its T&C, or it is simply not there. It is beyond my comprehension when I am told to read in between the lines in a business contract. All informal talks about differential approach to each affiliate’s case and potentially negotiable conditions are not businesslike.Maybe it needs repeating?Message for Marlo
a program either has a certain condition unambiguously stated and clearly written in its T&C, or it is simply not there.Message for Geordie Simon
a program either has a certain condition unambiguously stated and clearly written in its T&C, or it is simply not there.Message for Nine
a program either has a certain condition unambiguously stated and clearly written in its T&C, or it is simply not there.Message for VIP
a program either has a certain condition unambiguously stated and clearly written in its T&C, or it is simply not there.And Shafting The Players over terms won’t help much.
G3 Partner will pay commissions for the life of the player, provided that the Affiliate remains an active Affiliate within the Program. G3 Partner will not apply the following term within the first 6 months of the relationship: Should an affiliate fail to deliver any new players in a six month period, G3Partner reserves the right to de-activate the affiliate account and withhold earnings. Should an affiliate re-activate their account through sending a purchasing player within a month after suspension of the account, G3Partner may, at their discretion, back pay earned commission. These instances will be reviewed individually and will be based on history with the program.
Sorry if this is beside the point but..
Even though this was there from the very beginning and it’s a full 6 months, I would not accept this. I did not join.With everything that has been going on, I am uncomfortable that it is in there at all. What if this happens that you do not get players. Do you yank them and lose everything or promote them to get players with a sour taste in your mouth?They all need to lose this, it is not lifetime at all.
It’s definitely not lifetime.
The thing is, it was there for you to see and base a decision on. You don’t like, you don’t enter into the contract.
With VIP/9am affiliates entered a contract only to find it isn’t what they signed at all.
That’s where the problem is.
Dominique wrote:It’s definitely not lifetime.The thing is, it was there for you to see and base a decision on. You don’t like, you don’t enter into the contract.
With VIP/9am affiliates entered a contract only to find it isn’t what they signed at all.
That’s where the problem is.
I completely agree Dom. It is unacceptable and somewhat underhanded. The term is bad enough without blindsiding you later. We have a right to be angry!
I do wonder why this term is in there at all at places. The whole thing seems sneaky to me. “You can have your lifetime player until we feel like taking it. This term will help us do that.”
What is the point of this term.
So that is it?. The rule stays? So much for open dialogue. Might aswell rogue them prof.
The rule means once on board with Vip/9, you must promote them forever and a day. & it will be applied retroactively, which is the whole point by the way.
I don’t think this rule can stand, where 25% for lifetime of player is the business model.
I have nothing but respect for both Simon and Mario and the VIP group. They have always been dynamite to work with and have a sterling reputation with players and affiliates.
Because of that I am viewing the proposed changes to the terms and conditions as an honest mistake made during a challenging period of time. I fully expect that both Mario and Simon are discussing this situation with management and that a satisfactory resolution will be brought forward ASAP.
Let’s keep a positive outlook towards that end.
Mario it’s obvious this particular term has the potential of doing a great deal of damage to the relationship your program has with affiliates. You guys have worked hard for years to build up that trust and support from your partners. I am sure you arent willing to throw all of that away to hang on to a clause that you have no intention of enforcing.
Lets get all this cleared up so everyone can have a great holiday season. The Super Bowl and all the College Bowls are right around the corner. Now is not the time to lose all those front page spots you guys have on affiliate portals.
All,
Thanks again for all the feedback.We will be adding a line to this term to specify no retroactive enforcement is intended.
I will also clarify further, it’s a bit late in the day now.
Will post and make live tomorrow.
Thanks!
Great news Mario! I am glad to hear this:hattip:
Looking forward to a positive resolution!
(affiliates that sent 2 players back in 2004) Here is my question not that it even concerns me.But what is wrong with that person that got 2 players back in 2004? did they not get those players with the promise that they would have them for life?
Mário wrote:All,
Thanks again for all the feedback.We will be adding a line to this term to specify no retroactive enforcement is intended.
I will also clarify further, it’s a bit late in the day now.
Will post and make live tomorrow.
Thanks! Clarification.. Casino Doberman… Once you advertise for us, you may never leave.
Multiply that by 2000 online gaming firms and theoretically you all have to pay no one in the end, because the new players will run out doh. Think about it.
Wer’e not all as slow as your firm thinks.
The firm should drop the rule alltogether and behave.
