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Luigi;183413 wrote:Are you talking to me greedygirl? If so, how in the heck are those fair questions? It’s no one’s business what I run or how much traffic I have. Do I not come off as knowledgeable of the industry? Am I not just voicing the hidden thoughts that everyone is too scared to say out loud?
I was referring the questions (which are perfectly ‘fair’ i may add) to ebwin, who was asking what were the best programs.
If I ask those questions i can get an idea of what he’s after and whether the totesport program would suit. However, as another poster commented, i don’t think he’s really that interested and just putting the boot in to the merchants.
As for my two-penneth re the thread topic. Call it naivety but I’m always somewhat surprised by the stories I read on here and the ensuing trust issues affiliates have with affiliate programs.
I think it’s unfair to lump all programs in the same boat. I’ve been associated with a few UK bookmakers and with regards to the programs I’ve run there’s never been any question of diddling affiliates out of their earnings. Perhaps it’s a UK thing as i’d be surprised if any of our competitors were any different.
Of course there are going to be the odd problems her and there but providing the communication is there, these things can be sorted out quickly.
Luigi;183413 wrote:Am I not just voicing the hidden thoughts that everyone is too scared to say out loud?That’s the point.
No matter you’re a newbie or have been in the industry for years,this hidden scam risk can clearly be aware of by thoughtful people.
To Triple777s:
If you don’t care this problem yourself,that’s your own business.But you shouldn’t say anything against those thoughtful people.
russell@totesport;183422 wrote:As for my two-penneth re the thread topic. Call it naivety but I’m always somewhat surprised by the stories I read on here and the ensuing trust issues affiliates have with affiliate programs.I think it’s unfair to lump all programs in the same boat. I’ve been associated with a few UK bookmakers and with regards to the programs I’ve run there’s never been any question of diddling affiliates out of their earnings. Perhaps it’s a UK thing as i’d be surprised if any of our competitors were any different.
Of course there are going to be the odd problems here and there but providing the communication is there, these things can be sorted out quickly.
I couldnt have said it better myself
Hi,Kelly
Have you seen my question here?http://casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=183444#post183444
Please give me a reply.Dom I’m having trouble seeing the question you have asked me?
Could you PM me the question
thanks
KellyPM has been sent to you.
Kelly – bet365;183467 wrote:Dom I’m having trouble seeing the question you have asked me?Could you PM me the question
thanks
KellyThis topic has made waves in the industry from the start. The author of this thread is correct when he says that everyone has had times when they didn’t trust a program.
Back in the early days, stats were rudimentary and who could tell what went on?
Now most programs have tried to make stats as transparent as possible and things are a lot clearer.
Still, there will always be doubts as to whether stats can be manipulated and if so, whether a specific program chooses to do so.
There is no official audit and while that is so, doubts will always exist.
Individual webmasters (me included) have been doing their own audits for years and based trust or distrust on these. And I have to say that overall I have found tracking to be good.
I find the point that many programs strive to set themselves apart by being transparent and honest correct, competition between programs is high. And yes, of course there are bad apples. Just don’t promote these. Read here and stay up to date and you can avoid them.
To be fair, a lot of programs also have their reservations about affiliates. There is such a thing as affiliate fraud, and at times it is more rampant than at others.
For both sides it’s a good idea to participate here and get to know the other party as well as you can. Communicate!
When I start to promote a program, I make it based on the program’s reputation I find here, on AGD, on GPWA, etc. When the program goes through these filters, they start at 100% trust from me, because how else I could build a business with someone without trust?
Of course we affiliates cannot see behind the curtain, but if we don’t trust at all in the programs we promote, then why we promote them at all?
The pie is big enough for both parties. Do we get enough share of the pie? Most likely (remember, gambling affiliation is the most lucrative affiliate business online, noone could come up with something similar so far afaik). Are there situations when we don’t get our share? Most likely. There will be always shady operations in any business fields. Stay away from them. These shady programs will be identified and thanks for forums like CAP they get publicity by other affiliates, so you can avoid them.
Regarding the sometimes rude questions from affiliates: I don’t know why some feels that by being rude they will get further, being an affiliate means a business relationship for me with the programs, and like in real life I wouldn’t shout at my clients, why should I shout at an affiliate manager? There are people on the other side of the partnership too, give respect and you get respect (and most of the time quicker problem solving and more attention from your manager – EVEN if you are a smaller affiliate!!!).
My 2 cents :hattip:
Top speech:hattip:
Dominique;183475 wrote:This topic has made waves in the industry from the start. The author of this thread is correct when he says that everyone has had times when they didn’t trust a program.Back in the early days, stats were rudimentary and who could tell what went on?
Now most programs have tried to make stats as transparent as possible and things are a lot clearer.
Still, there will always be doubts as to whether stats can be manipulated and if so, whether a specific program chooses to do so.
There is no official audit and while that is so, doubts will always exist.
Individual webmasters (me included) have been doing their own audits for years and based trust or distrust on these. And I have to say that overall I have found tracking to be good.
I find the point that many programs strive to set themselves apart by being transparent and honest correct, competition between programs is high. And yes, of course there are bad apples. Just don’t promote these. Read here and stay up to date and you can avoid them.
To be fair, a lot of programs also have their reservations about affiliates. There is such a thing as affiliate fraud, and at times it is more rampant than at others.
For both sides it’s a good idea to participate here and get to know the other party as well as you can. Communicate!
Guys… Please see:
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/cap-audit-team-volunteers-and-leaders-needed.31105.html?
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