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July 30, 2007 at 9:30 pm #604145AnonymousInactive
Has anyone checked this out properly?
It seems to me that if they get a good number of affiliates promoting it, and if the programs allow them to set special bonuses and incentives, it will put website owners at a disadvantage.
It is like the old scumware. Players will surf to your site, read your info, make their decision based on what you provided, and click on the device to go to the casino because the offer is better that way. You get nothing for building your site.. Nothing for getting the traffic… nothing at all.July 30, 2007 at 9:35 pm #744102AnonymousInactive
First I have heard of it? Is there a link?July 30, 2007 at 9:51 pm #744104AnonymousInactive
Pre-Launch: 199 Registered Affiliates
Pre-Launch: 22830 Registered UsersJuly 30, 2007 at 10:08 pm #744105AnonymousInactive
This is familiar. I think the guy who set it up is a Meister member – or certainly on one of the forums I go to regular. Sure it was Meister…might go research. Might even be here or GPWA.
Essentially if I remember right, the author is an affiliate and the links in the software are affiliate links. He’s just doing what we’re doing, but in an original way. Damn…who was it now.
Yeah yeah it was Meister. I remember ‘cos one of the players bought it up and it was shot down because it has some “rogue” casinos on there. Personally I think it’s a great idea, but the content has to be right.
Here you go: xhttp://www.casinomeister.com/forums/online-casinos/17716-players-casino-poker-tool.htmlJuly 30, 2007 at 10:11 pm #744106AnonymousInactiveJuly 30, 2007 at 10:13 pm #744107AnonymousInactive
Ah there’s a familiar nameJuly 30, 2007 at 10:18 pm #744108AnonymousInactive
I tend to agree with Dom… we need to check this out VERY WELL. I don’t trust this at all.July 30, 2007 at 10:32 pm #744109AnonymousInactive
I wish I knew which programs are promoting through this, but I don’t want to sign up to find out.
It says 888, 7 sultans, casino Tropez, VIP casino and 32 Vegas on their front page but is just the sample toolbar thingy, so maybe real and maybe not.
Itay about himself:
Itay Paz here, I am in the industry for the last 5.5 years and since day 1 I was mistaken to be Itay from C,Pay. Well, I am Israeli but I am not him. I was a webmaster for the last 5 years and now I am working on a new innovative affiliation company.
My expertise is SEO (both white and black). I am one of the 2 founders of WIDS (Webmasters In the Dead Sea), a BH SEO exclusive gathering (which we are planning to do it again in the next few months).
Itay represented the Blackhat community in Amsterdam last May.July 30, 2007 at 10:55 pm #744112AnonymousInactive
I would never put all my traffic in the hands of a single person, also I would go after a casino that gives away my players, ie I would think very hard about advertising an affiliate that promotes this.July 31, 2007 at 1:06 am #744120AnonymousInactive
I got an email from Itay with the option of unsubscribing from the list at the end of the email on July 5. Thing is, I don’t recall ever subscribing for it in the 1st place.
Then I got another email thanking me for joining their prelaunch. This was on July 22. Thing is, I don’t recall joining their prelaunch program.
I’m not crazy about form letters via email, although I understand they have their place. But getting a form letter thanking me joining a prelaunch program I’ve never heard of and haven’t expressed any interest in joining is deceptive and annoying.
So far, I don’t have a very good impression of Itay or his organization at all.July 31, 2007 at 2:51 am #744123AnonymousInactive
I agree with Randy’s post. @Randy 133159 wrote:
So far, I don’t have a very good impression of Itay or his organization at all.
Neither do I.
Itay is a known blackhatter, and he is also the newest CAP moderator? I’m confused. :tooconfusJuly 31, 2007 at 3:05 am #744124AnonymousInactive
yeah this whole think stinks of a massive cash snatch to me, and the sudden addition as a modirator? somthing makes me wonder whats up..
Dom any clue whats going on? also as a mod im sure he’s in here lol :wavey:July 31, 2007 at 3:17 am #744125AnonymousInactive
He only moderates the newbie area, he is not in here.
He said to the professor that he would teach us how to protect ourselves from blackhatters.July 31, 2007 at 3:52 am #744130AnonymousInactive
He posted outside, and this is exactly what I am worried about:
Yes, we are sure that there will be special offers being offered exclusively to B4Playing community.
That means that your visitors who have this thing will come to your site for information, but then click on the better offer in the b4thing.
It is not exactly stealing your content, it is just using your content and your traffic to make a sale and absconding with the player.
If the programs provide the b4thing with special offers that beat what us mere mortals can offer, we get screwed out of the pay for our work. We build the sites, we attract the traffic (and lord knows that’s hard enough) But players will go with the better offer in the end and leave us without income.
I don’t see much difference between this thing and what “gator” used to do, go around and plaster their ads over our sites.
And this is a community with chat, so they are going to say” hey, Simmo has a cool review of all the new slots, which one do you wanna play?” So they look at them and pick one and then pick the best casino offer from the b4thing. Simmo gets the honor of providing the info for free.
It worries me. It’s all we need in times like this, parasites.July 31, 2007 at 4:58 am #744133AnonymousInactive
I don’t like any of this at all and the whole moderator thing…sorry no disrespect Lou but WTF? Do you seriously think this guy is here to give us heads up on Blackhat, this to me is like letting the wolf walk right into the hen house! ‘
I get the damn willies just thinking about the damage this guy can do..