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[Anonymous]

Here I am again, after some good sleep. Two more affiliate managers replied!

Poker.com

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No, there is no negative carry over on any plan. The Poker.com affiliate program currently pays monthly and each account is reset to zero on the first day of the month.

In addition, side game wins (blackjack, casino games etc) will never affect your poker earnings. Unlike other programs that mix poker and casino into the same balance, any side game wins will never reduce your poker revenue share, therefore your balance of rake commission is always guaranteed each month. Affiliates receive 40% revenue share on both poker and side games, however one does not affect the other.

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No. Affiliates retain players for life.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No. By default, every affiliate receives the same 40% (no carry over) commission program, there is no need to negotiate these special requirements.

4) Any restriction?
No.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/poker-com-negative-carry-over-rules.14535.html

Slots24

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
Play effects
Negative play balances are always zeroed at the start of each new month. This is reflected in our Affiliate Payment summary, as a positive value offsetting the negative. This allows our Affiliates to still see that if there was a negative, and to see that the zeroing was completed correctly.

Chargebacks or Confirmed Fraud effects
The only negative balance that could be carried over is the effect of a successful Chargeback or confirmed Fraud, as this is income that neither the casino or the affiliate has anymore. This however is NOT the full value of the chargeback/fraud, but only the affiliate portioned amount of the revenue earned.

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No. This would be unfair to the affiliate, as the player will more than likely put it all back in during the following month.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
Nope, it’s part of our standard T&C’s.

4) Any restriction?
None, other than point 1

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/slots24-negative-carry-over-rules.14546.html

Interesting thread! I hope that this helps to clear things up!

I hope the same :cheers:

[Anonymous]

One more reply, this time from Nicole. Awesome response from our affiliate managers here at CAP!

Roxy Affiliates

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
We do not carry over a negative balance as a result of winners…each month starts fresh.

We only ever carry over a negative as a result of chargebacks
which is effectively money that the affiliate has already earned commission on. This also only comes into effect when the revenue generated in that month is not sufficient to cover the chargeback amount.

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No. Never…that’s just unethical and is not a good long term strategy.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No.

4) Any restriction?
Only as mentioned above with regard to chargebacks.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/roxy-affiliates-negative-carry-over-rules.14542.html

[Anonymous]

One of our great community members PM’ed me, and suggested me an easier way to do this. Making just one thread, trying to get the affiliate managers attention.

I really thought about that, and believe me I would gladly avoid the 2 hours of posting. I have lots of work to do, and my eyes aren’t great…
But I knew that otherwise many affiliate managers wouldn’t see this thread. Soon it would be buried, and I don’t think bumps are good…

Besides this compiled thread, in months to come, when this is forgotten, any affiliate who enters a specific program forum will see their specific thread, and won’t ask the same question lots of times.

I really appreciate the suggestion, and believe me I won’t do something like this so soon. But this is very useful and the awesome replies of our certified programs managers shows that.

If someone paid me, I wouldn’t have done it for $100. I have delayed projects that pay me 10x for an hour of work, much less what this took, and continues to take. My main portal is late because of the lack of time. But still, I decided to make this.

I just learned so much at this community, that I thought it was time to work a little.

This thread was made for me, and for all of you. :hattip:

[Anonymous]

For me, i appreciate being treated with respect by my partners, i don’t like places who look at technicalities in their terms as an excuse to not pay me what i rightfully earned, my job essentially is to send players to a property and if i do that i should be comped, i am not a slave labourer

Some places are much better than others, and i treat them the way they treat me, it’s just unfortunate that it’s the minority and not the majority, although i have noticed a slight improvement recently from some places to ensure i am content.

Another question you should have asked is whether affiliate accounts are locked or forfeited due to inactivity, ie, not sending enough players, or a certain number of players over a designated time period

I dump all these places immediately, that’s a violation of the honour code in my book, and would never trust any place that cites this in their terms

[Anonymous]

There are so many good questions Nick… I also had more. Monthly minimums and such. I just didn’t want to go offtopic, but maybe I should have made something more general…

We have another reply, and I’m calling it a day. Today I’m stopping work earlier. It’s friday night, and I’m taking the night off

9AM

1) Do you carry over negative balance?

Yes we do carry over negatives, however we will clear negatives on a monthly basis should you have brought in at least 20 depositing players in the previous month.

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?

We will remove a winning player on a case by case basis only if the affiliate agrees to remove this player as this player can start loosing in the future. Should the player have been removed then no future commissions can be earned either.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?

Unsure what you are getting at here, but see point 1.

4) Any restriction?

See point 1.

[Anonymous]

TCAds – Online Backgammon

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
Yes, negative balances are carried over by default; however we will cancel them according to agreed targets set with the affiliate. These targets are based on:

i) The number of depositors

ii) The amount of the negative balance

*It is important to note that after 2 months; there should be no negative balance; therefore we are willing to cancel the negative balance for the first 2-3 months upon an affiliate’s request

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No,the winning player is not removed from the account.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
*As described in # 1

4) Any restriction?
No.

[Anonymous]

Hi

Not sure this was called for

With all due respect to G, …. and in fact I was at first of the same mind (so that quote fits myself as well … especially after seeing all the posts at the same time come up in the new posts search :laugh: ): … I later concluded if someone is willing to do the work then I applaud them for being willing to go to this much trouble even if it is somewhat already covered (by Engineer, good job buddy) because there are some areas covered that aren’t covered in the earlier thread and (as was pointed out to me in PM) by going to each individual forum thread it forces the issue upon the respective program to address the questions put forth and if someone does a search about a particular program it gives answers which might not otherwise have been seen in a search done much later on.

so IMHO both Engineer and Web7 have done us all a service which at the time of posting these questions by Web7 may have seen over the top, in the long run it will surely be an advantage to those searching about a particular program.

*note – Web7’s wisdom in this approach becomes more apparent to me when I did a search today looking for progams with predatory clauses because I know there is probably such a list here but I obviously didn’t find the right keywords to produce the desired results. and I am thinking if there’d been a couple of ways approaching the subject it might have hit for me.

[Anonymous]

Thank you! :blush:
Believe me this wasn’t easy, and today I have more replies to paste here. In the last 3/4 days I didn’t do anything besides posting in forums. And I have a lot of late lork to do…
First it was this task, and the second was a domain giveaway, that raised a lot of commotion in some forums, and all the domains were given. But it was hard to keep up with everything, and yesterday I went to sleep 5 hours before my normal time, with a big eye strain.

I should keep away from computers the most I can, to rest my eyes, but I’m addicted to forums

[Anonymous]

BetRev

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
Answer: No

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
Answer: No

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
Answer: No, this is occurs automatically on the 1st of each month

4) Any restriction?
Answer: No

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/bet-rev-negative-carry-over-rules.14493.html

Revenue Giants

#1.) We do not carry over negative balances, your balance would be automatically set to zero at the beginning of the month.

#2.)The winning player is not removed from the account.

#3.)The webmaster does not have to request a non negative carry over agreement.

#4.) There are no restrictions, it’s actually quite simple…if there is a negative balance it is just set back to zero.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/revenue-giants-negative-carry-over-rules.14541.html

24hPoker

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
Yes. Negative balances are carried over into the next billing cycle.

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
At the moment, we only promote Poker and it is quite rare to see anything catastrophic happening, which would take the affiliate’s acrruals into the negative.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
If the webmaster chooses to promote our Sportsbook & Casino apart from Poker, then we take it up on a case to case basis and reach a mutually agreeable conclusion.

4) Any restriction?
We are quite flexible in our approach to our affiliates.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/24hpoker-negative-carry-over-rules.14486.html

[Anonymous]

Vegas Partner

1) No, unless a special arrangement has been made with the affiliate in writing.
2) No
3) No
4) No

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/vegas-partner-negative-carry-over-rules.14553.html

IOG Casinos

1. Do you carry over negative balance?

Yes we do carry over negative balances.

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?

We are able to do this but only with consultation with the affiliate.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?

Yes the webmaster can request this via his/her account manager.

4) Any restriction?

Our affiliate team will do everything in their power to make sure the service given to webmasters/affiliates is of the highest standard, if there are restrictions of any sort then this would be thoroughly explained to webmasters/affiliates.

Whist understanding that we are also a business, we are very proud to be able to offer professional, sincere representatives that are focused on creating long term partnerships rather than focusing on short term results, dedicated in helping you achieve your long term targets and goals.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/iog-negative-carry-over-rules.14526.html

[Anonymous]

I have some more great replies! And in the thread created for Roxy Affiliates, there is some great feedback!

But back to business

SkyAffiliates

Simple answer to your question SKYaffiliates do not carry over Negative Balances, as we appreciate that a big win in one month should not wipe out the affiliates income generated from new players in subsequent months .

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/skyaffiliates-negative-carry-over-rules.14545.html

Wager Profits

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
We don’t. We adjust negatives the first 5 business days of each month.

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
That’s at the affiliate discretion.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No. It is automatically set up when you join.

4) Any restriction?
No restrictions for carry over system. All affiliates work under the same no-negative carry over system.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/wager-profits-negative-carry-over-rules.14555.html

[Anonymous]

Martyn from BetFred wins the prize for the most creative reply :laugh:

4) Any restriction?
Nope, unless my boxershorts count as my belly expands?

BetFred

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No Way!

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
A winning player does have an effect on the Net Gaming figure in which the affiliates commissions are based.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
Negative! All our accounts have any negative balance zeroed/written off at the start of every month.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/betfred-negative-carry-over-rules.14492.html

CWC Affiliates

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No, but I can see the point to the question, and the affiliate is at an advantage at this point, however this is a partnership and hopefully we have a long term relationship we both benefit from.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No, included in terms already and is available for all affiliates

4) Any restriction?
No restrictions, nothing hidden.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/cwc-negative-carry-over-rules.14509.html

Jason, from CWC Affiliates is right, and we hope that in the long term both parties profit from the partnership. The problem is that a small affiliate may not be able to get out of the negative balance, and just give up. The affiliate program will also loose in the long term, because the affiliate won’t bring new players there…

So this is can be a problem. This thread was a surprise for me. Never thought so many programs didn’t carry over negative balances.

Thank you! :thumbsup:

[Anonymous]

Very detailed reply from…

Fortune Affiliates

At Fortune Affiliates we have various earnings models each with their own terms and conditions, so in response to the questions posed we have broken this down per earnings model.

Fortune Affiliates earnings models:

Casino earnings models

* Classic Revshare (Only available to legacy affiliates who signed up before Sep 2005)

* Wager share

* Purchase share

* Profit share

* Casino CPA

Poker Earnings
• Poker Revshare
• Poker CPA

Questions:
1) Do you carry over negative balance?

Casino earnings models

* Classic Revshare – no negative carry over, except for chargebacks if earnings balance does not cover the chargeback amount. i.e. reversal of commissions on the chargeback player

* Wager share – – no negative carry over, except for chargebacks if earnings balance does not cover the chargeback amount. i.e. reversal of commissions on the chargeback player

* Purchase share – – no negative carry over, except for chargebacks if earnings balance does not cover the chargeback amount. i.e. reversal of commissions on the chargeback player

* Profit share – Yes there is

* Casino CPA – No negative carry over except in the case of fraudulent player accounts and chargebacks.

Poker earnings models

* Poker Revshare – no negative carry over, except for chargebacks if earnings balance does not cover the chargeback amount. i.e. reversal of commissions on the chargeback player

* Poker CPA– no negative carry over, except for chargebacks if earnings balance does not cover the chargeback amount. i.e. reversal of commissions on the chargeback player

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No – not on any of the models

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
As per above, the only model with true negative carry over is the Profit share model, however here we compensate with much higher earnings percentages.

4) Any restriction?
None

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/fortune-affiliates-negative-carry-over-rules.14513.html

PlayShare / PokerShare

1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No. At the end of every month any negative balances will revert to zero. The only exception to this is in the very rare case of chargebacks made in the last few days of the month.

Also, any negative earnings from our CasinoShare.com will not affect positive results from PokerShare.com as the two revenue streams are ring fenced

2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No, winning player will remain tagged to the webmaster for ever unless requested to be removed by you the webmaster.

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No, as a non negative carry over is our standard agreement

4) Any restriction?
No

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/poker-share-negative-carry-over-rules.14537.html

Thanks for making the effort. I am sure this will help many affiliates!

Thank you Jess for your kind words :hattip: ! From the number of views this threads have in a few days, I think the same

[Anonymous]

Golden Star Network

1) Do you carry over negative balance? NO, unless a special arrangement has been made with the Affiliate in writing.

2) Is the winning player removed from the account? NO

3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement? NO.

4) Any restriction? NO

[Anonymous]

Ultimate Bet

UltimateBet doesn’t have negative carry over.

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/ultimatebet-negative-carry-over-rules.14551.html

Absolute Poker

1) We do not carry over negative balances

2) Winning players are not removed

3) The agreement is part of our terms and conditions

4) There are no restrictions

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/absolute-poker-negative-carry-over-rules.14487.html

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