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Dominique wrote:I will sue, even if there is no guarantee for winning. So I either lose or set a precedent.
Dom.
I feel that :
– You’ll do both.
– And it will cost a lot of money in the process.Have you got a TM for GamesandCasino?
If not – are you going to try and prove that your site is an established brand that they’re trading goodwill off ? It just seems far too generic to me.
That’s like setting up business.com and claiming there can be no other suffixed “business” brand site … which is contrary to basic domain name standards … I mean that is exactly why they have all the suffixes.
:notify:To be honest I would not care too much … you’ve got the dot com .. and if these domains EVER sold (at $6K per shot !!) any branding that they tried would probably deliver most of it’s benefit to the dot com site (you).
:satisfied(opps sorry – I see Mr Moon said basically the same thing – apologies fro the redundant post)
:dontget:You don’t get the point.
I don’t care of I win or lose.
I am going to make things very uncomfortable for a long time for whoever took that domain with ill intent.
And in the end, they won’t be able to use it. For a number of reasons, but I am not showing my hand here.
I don’t take kindly to being abused. Not going to happen.
Besides, what are you arguing here?
I should let people walk all over me because public opinion says I am helpless?
When hell freezes over!
There will be hell to pay if the act was malicious, and hell is hot.
Fair enough, I just hope you don’t end up causing more hassle to yourself than you do to him. I don’t understand how you can make things uncomfortable for him when he can just ignore you, but obviously you have some things planned
Do keep us updated when you can!hehe,
a krat of Amstel is on its way to a certain city in EU,
hidden in it a small box with (not the Brufen) ,what is it called that kills every headache?bottoms up!
Dominique wrote:You don’t get the point.I don’t care of I win or lose.
I am going to make things very uncomfortable for a long time for whoever took that domain with ill intent.
:laugh: I think everyone gets the point but you. I have reviewed ICANN cases for years and you have no case. You seem interested only in pounding your chest like a caveman/woman, I am dom no one is going to screw with me. I am half tempted to go out and register a few of domain similar to yours just to get to you. :flush:
Guys, this is an .eu gambling domain.
Nuff said.
Axl, what’s with the hostility?
Why would you want to do something nasty to me?
Dominique wrote:Guys, this is an .eu gambling domain.Nuff said.
Axl, what’s with the hostility?
Why would you want to do something nasty to me?
I don’t see what you mean about an .eu gambling domain? casino.eu is doing fine – awarded to the first trademark holder with ‘casino’ somewhere in their trademark.
Once again, the whole thing boils down to the very simple question: do you have an EU trademark that contains the words ‘games and casino’? If so, fire away. If not, you’re just pouring money down the drain for now purpose (that I can discern)
I think axl’s point is that you seem to be declaring war as if you have some automatic right to every domain in the world with ‘gamesandcasino’ in it, but you don’t have any right to them unless you own the trademark in the appropriate territory and/or you got there first.
You’re assuming there is bad faith here, but of course there may not be. It might be some innocent guy who just had the same idea of you. Then you pile in threatening lawyers and legal action and bully/scare the poor guy to giving in to you, when in fact the domain is legally, rightfully and morally his. Then you are the bad guy.
If there was bad faith on his part then you can certainly (morally) threaten legal action and hope he gives in. If you then want to cut off your nose to spite your face, you could take it further.
I think our whole point is that your ‘crusdade’ seems rather bizarre and like sour grapes. You should have registered these domains up front, but you forgot and you got burnt – it happens. The implication in your posts is that you automatically own the right to all these domains, and that comes across as ignorantly arrogant – somewhat reminiscent of the ‘easy’ domain cases, where the Easy Group (who own EasyJet, EasyInternet,EasyCarRental and dozens of others) succesfully sued a whole myriad of domain owners that had Easy* in their names, even if they had owned those domains for years. They cajoled, bullied and threatened domain owners, and then sued if they still didn’t give in. Unfortunately they won a lot of their cases, though of course that’s because they did own trademarks. But they became the pariah of the internet in the process.
There’s really no need to go down that route, and I don’t think it will benefit you in the long run. I’d recommend registering the rest of gamesandcasino.* right now and then you won’t have to worry about this in future.
I saw a report about the new .mobi domain on CNN yesterday. The guy who owns British insurance spends 200,000 GBP a year to reserve variations of his domain name in order to protect himself from typo squatters. I´m not sure that is worth it but it can obviously be done on a much smaller scale in most cases.
Well, if someone is selling those domains – obviously he/she owns them already – so you should be suing them, why wait for the next owner?
If you thought you had a case – you would have done it by now :hattip:
owning them in iteself isn’t enough for a claim.. for instance, if you own cookies.com and I own cookies.net, if you’re site is an informational site about internet cookies, and I’m selling gramma’s recipe.. then my site is not likely to be confused with yours and you are not likely infringing on my trademark… and vise versa..
In other words, to have any case at all, she has to wait until they build the site and see what’s there. If they choose to use the gamesandcasino url to promote popcorn, or some other off the wall non gambling item, not real likely a trademark infringement.
(Very vague example, but should be simple enuff to understand)
This reminds me…
The first poker site i ever did was this freehosted Bravenet piece of junk, i was just figuring out how to add banners, etc
When it came time to publish my one page masterpiece, i forgot about choosing a name, and needed to decide on one quickly, cuz i was anxious to see my work, this was all new to me back then
Anyway, the default title was “blank page”, so i just changed “blank” to “poker”, since the more obvious “poker” and “onlinepoker”, etc were taken, so i settled on “pokerpage”, since thats what it was, made sense, so my url was pokerpage.bravehost.com(no longer in existence)
Who comes raging on me, a la Dom here, pokerpages.com
The girl from pokerpages.com is sending me e-mails telling me i have to change the name of my site, my reaction was, “wtf is up with u chicky, are u serious”, i mean u gotta be kidding me, i had never even heard of pokerpages.com back then, and this lady is givin me the bizness
There was no way i could consider her as anything more than a fool
I suggested she go after pokerpages.net, .info, .us, and all the other dots out there using her name
I tried to explain how rediculous she was, thinking that u could own the name “poker” in some variation as exclusively your own, especially with the 100 million + poker sites out there
Thats not to say i’m comparing this situation with Dom’s, but lets say for example, i saw the name Dominique here, and liked it, then decided to name my kid Dominique, would u sue me for it, i mean it’s your name and you were born first
Seriously Dom, if your madness prevailed, this world would be hell
We’d have the poker.com guy sueing the poker.net guy, 32red suing 32vegas over the number 32, Main street suing Main street in every major North American city, donut makers suing cruller and tidbit makers, it would never end, France would sue America for use of colours Red, White, and Blue in their flag, Ford would sue every car manufacturer on the planet since they invented the first car, and so on
Tesla sued Marconi over the invention of the radio and won, although Marconi was originally given the honour and held it for several years, so you might have some hope
intercasino would sue interXcasino! :Partier:
Ok, Ok guys lets get back to work…
It’s been an interesting conversation. Dom is upset because she puts a tremendous amount of time, money and effort into building her site and brand and understandably doesn’t appreciate someone else trying to prey on that.
I completely understand and empathize with where she is coming from.
Everyone has offered their advice and opinion on the topic. Lets leave it at that and not let the thread devolve into something else. I mainly view this thread as a friend and CAP family member expressing frustration with something that bothers them. Lets be supportive and not throw salt on wounds.
:drunk2:
Professor wrote:doesn’t appreciate someone else trying to prey on that.I completely understand and empathize with where she is coming from.
Totally agree with you, I think most if not all of us think the other person is a slim bucket for going and and preying on someone elses domains, but most know the legal basis as well. Just because someones a piece of doo and would do something like that doesnt mean you can sue them.
Most of us would never think about doing something so underhanded; to some it comes naturally. People who are going out and grabbing up someones established domains knows what they are doing, they are the crooked minded people who slide by.
Cheer up dom, we dont want you to suffer, we just dont think you have a case yet other than to call the other person a slim bucket.
