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  • #735225
    stevej
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    Could not have said it better myself…. but darko remember now we are dealing with the domain dealers. everything will be overpriced. if they had a great site producing moderate income on some of these domains, it would still be hard to justify the prices.

    Luckily only 3 I was moderatly interested in and the one I am really interested in is so over priced, I’m not to worried about someone else getting it. :P

    #735229
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    $1MM – $5MM OnlineCasinos.com

    This is crazy !!. For 1mil I’d rather do profesional SEO on my own domains. I guess OnlineCasinos.com is good for building your authority/pr.

    #735230
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    For 1mil I’d rather do profesional SEO on my own domains.

    For $1 million I would leave the industry for good!

    #735256
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yup, If those limits hold, I would be surprised to see one domain sold, other than poker.com and possibly slots.com

    As it seems that almost all of those domains have no traffic, there is no chance of type-ins with 99% of them.

    1M is crazy price for ANY domain name – who would have paid 1M for google.com if it did not have the traffic?

    I was really looking forward to this auction, but it’s just offensive to see limits set this high for domains worth $100 at best…

    #735258
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    Stupid wrote:
    I was really looking forward to this auction, but it’s just offensive to see limits set this high for domains worth $100 at best…

    Yup, i too was looking forward to the list when i found out about the auction….. but what a load of crap.

    I wish i knew about this auction before as i could have put up a few great names for reasonable prices

    anyhow after seeing the list i have 2 domains for sale

    ukgambling.org (ranks 11 for “uk gambling”) $50,000 – $100,000 :happydanc

    OnlineCasinos.uk.com $50,000+ :1circling

    hehehhe

    #735287
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    eclipse wrote:
    This is crazy !!. For 1mil I’d rather do profesional SEO on my own domains. I guess OnlineCasinos.com is good for building your authority/pr.

    Personally, I think $1 million could turn out to be a fair price on the assumption that you’re probably getting far more than just a domain name…a historical site, with traffic and immediate revenue I would guess. But it’s probably only that good for as long as search engines consider “keyword urls” to be as important as they do now. If/when algo’s get better, brands could become a better investment.

    Some of the domains/prices are rather “optimistic” however I agree :) But then you don’t know ’til you ask I guess. It’s a shame the list doesn’t have extra info on revenue/history…it’s too long to research every name.

    #735487

    I understand your complaints and concerns. I guess we’ll see whether the market will bear some of these high prices. We usually are pretty tough on folks who set high pricing. Apparently the Selection Committee found good reason to allow these names in.

    We are also possibly offering poker.com. Here’s the link to all info, including latest master list, on the auction.

    http://marketplacepro.moniker.com/auction/index.html

    Amsterdam is beautiful this time of year.

    #735658
    Intertops
    Member

    I say this to the overpriced names: FINE BY ME! 2 of the only 4 names so far with bids, FreeBlackjack.net and CasinoNews.net, are mine, PROBABLY because I priced my names reasonably. I bet if the better names in the auction were priced reasonably too, I probably wouldn’t be seeing any action at all. My advice to you all is to just ignore those mirages and find the names that are reasonably priced. That’s what domain buying is all about anyways…we’re always bombarded with really good names that are generally really overpriced.

    Monte, you might want to hold a live auction as well next time. Besides the excitement it brings, the most important thing it causes is lowering of reserves, as people want their names to reach the live auction vs. the silent auction. For what it’s worth, I was hopeful to see some more action this time since there was no live auction to take away the excitement of the silent auction bidding, but the high reserves seem to have counteracted that. I’m sure you guys wound up being forced to accept a lot of them just so you could have a full auction…I personally don’t think they intentionally ignored the high prices.

    Anyhow, good luck to everyone! If anyone has any domain related questions they want to ask like why something may be valued higher or lower than they think, shoot me a PM or something and I’ll help you out.

    #735661
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    The amount of junk on that lis is just staggering… and to think it had to “pass” a selection committee?

    Finding out how to submit names for consideration was like finding a needle in a haystack – and then when I finally found it, where it had not existed before, it was too late.

    Good luck to those who are willing to sort through the junk in there… I don’t believe there was one domain that would have been of any interest to me (in the low range) – and everything else is too high.

    Next time, Moniker, make the selection committee do some work for a change!

    #735670
    Intertops
    Member
    Spearmaster wrote:
    The amount of junk on that lis is just staggering… and to think it had to “pass” a selection committee?

    Finding out how to submit names for consideration was like finding a needle in a haystack – and then when I finally found it, where it had not existed before, it was too late.

    Good luck to those who are willing to sort through the junk in there… I don’t believe there was one domain that would have been of any interest to me (in the low range) – and everything else is too high.

    Next time, Moniker, make the selection committee do some work for a change!

    I honestly don’t think they had much of a choice. At least on the other message boards I go to, there was a minor mention of the CAC auction coming when it was originally announced, and then literally the day of submissions being due, someone posted on one of the message boards about it, and that’s the only reason I was able to even get my names in. the other board, which is also a very prominent domainer message board, had NO mention of it leading up to the submission deadline. Instead, everyone’s focusing on the TRAFFIC NY auction, which had a deadline in late April. I don’t think they had nearly the amount of submissions they usually get because of that.

    For one thing, I think Moniker is holding too many auctions close together. At least if they were going to hold a CAC auction, they needed to do a live one as well as a silent, for people to keep their prices in check and also to create more buzz about it. Secondly, they REALLY need to reconsider the timing of things…the very day I found out which names of mine were accepted into the CAC auction was the deadline to submit names into TRAFFIC NY, and I KNEW it was going to happen like that and almost didn’t submit to the CAC because of it. After all, what if I find out my names didn’t make it into the CAC auction AFTER the TRAFFIC NY deadline…then I’m doubly screwed on those names? They just need to be more organized and rigid in how they handle these auctions. Millions of dollars are changing hands at these things, enough such that Moniker is making several hundreds of thousands of dollars. They need to echo the seriousness of that and get their act together when putting these auctions on, or else it will start to become a joke.

    Here’s a thought, perhaps good, perhaps not: Why not CHARGE for auction submissions and then charge LESS on the backend so that people aren’t wasting everyone’s time with overblown names? If you charge for submissions, people will be more cognicent of their pricing and will price their names to sell…otherwise, they’d be wasting money. Just a thought…

    #735703
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    NameTrader.com wrote:
    Why not CHARGE for auction submissions and then charge LESS on the backend so that people aren’t wasting everyone’s time with overblown names? If you charge for submissions, people will be more cognicent of their pricing and will price their names to sell…otherwise, they’d be wasting money.

    I’ve gotta agree with you there. No fee for listing = every Tom, Dick and Harry listing all their domains of any sort, which then makes additional work for the selection committee as well.

    $99 to bid? Get real. They’re going to get 10% on every sale anyhow – and then they want to charge people up front as well?

    BTW, good comments you made on your site. Winner.com was supposed to be listed as well – have you checked that one out?

    #735720
    biggyg
    Member

    Anything related to gambling is 2-3 times more expensive than any other niche.Everyone from link sellers , marketers and content writers charge this industry ‘a special price’. Just last week i paid $10.00 for a link for my hosting page and they wanted $35 for my gaming site .I get domain lists for free at premium drops and Last week I did purchase a pr7 with 3 million backlinks for over $20,000 at snapnames.I have never been charged to bid for any auctions and so what if ever tom dick and Jane joined the auctions within 5-10 minutes they will be out and the serious buyers are left. There were 60 bidders on my auction and in the end there was just 3 of us once price got over $10,000 . This is just a cash grab and very poor from a business point because you probably would sell more domains without the fee.How about doing what everyone else does , require a credit card on file.And I know if anyone has 1 million dollars to buy a domain they are not here bitching about the $99.00 .Just one final question did anything get sold?:1circling

    #735749
    Simon
    Member
    Tarzan wrote:
    Could not have said it better myself…. but darko remember now we are dealing with the domain dealers. everything will be overpriced. if they had a great site producing moderate income on some of these domains, it would still be hard to justify the prices.

    Luckily only 3 I was moderatly interested in and the one I am really interested in is so over priced, I’m not to worried about someone else getting it. :P

    If people don`t know anything else than .com then obviously you may take a few lessons joining some Domainers Forum around the web.

    I have for sale 3 names in this auction but I can`t even access to see how they are going because of the way this auction is done.

    My names are:

    Casino.bo (.bo is the ccTld of Bolivia , it is the hottest Keyword in Bolivia, huge potentials in a South American Country with Spanish as official language. Casino in Spanish is spelled the same. )

    OnlinePoker.pk (.pk is the ccTld of Pakistan , the 6th most populated Country in the world )

    PokerZune.com (I`m not sure if this one made the auction but it was really cheap )

    In substance, what I wanted to say is that if end user do not understand that there is more than .com on the internet than they should just learn more because many countries around the world prefer to use their ccTld rather than the anonymous .com to better identify their identity.

    Kind regards

    #735750
    Intertops
    Member
    italiandragon wrote:
    If people don`t know anything else than .com then obviously you may take a few lessons joining some Domainers Forum around the web.

    I have for sale 3 names in this auction but I can`t even access to see how they are going because of the way this auction is done.

    My names are:

    Casino.bo (.bo is the ccTld of Bolivia , it is the hottest Keyword in Bolivia, huge potentials in a South American Country with Spanish as official language. Casino in Spanish is spelled the same. )

    OnlinePoker.pk (.pk is the ccTld of Pakistan , the 6th most populated Country in the world )

    PokerZune.com (I`m not sure if this one made the auction but it was really cheap )

    In substance, what I wanted to say is that if end user do not understand that there is more than .com on the internet than they should just learn more because many countries around the world prefer to use their ccTld rather than the anonymous .com to better identify their identity.

    Kind regards

    Correctamundo about ccTLDs. I’m sure some people are wondering why my reserve on Poker.in is more than $40,000. The reason is simple: I’ve gotten about 15 5-figure offers for the name, topping out at $32,000 upfront or $50,000 in installment payments over time.

    Obviously that needs an explanation…why are people willing to pay that much? Because .in targets India, the 2nd most populous country in the world with the single largest base of English-speakers in the world, and a top 10 gambling economy despite gambling being illegal almost everywhere in India (same like the US except thanks to Native American reservation casinos, we can gamble practically anywhere here whereas India merely has Goa). Maharajah Club just sponsored the Asian Poker Classic in India back in March, the first $1 million poker tournament there, with likely many more in the years to come. With the US government cracking down on online gambling here in the states, poker sites will look for the next biggest markets to target. India’s going to be HUGE for poker in the coming years. $40,000+ is a tiny price to pay to corner that market before it blows up like the US market after Party Poker started the $1+ million tournament craze.

    In addition, “in” can be short for international, OR with subfolders, domain hacks like Poker.In/England (locational) and Poker.In/French (foreign language) can be done to make full experience for the worldwide market. Keep in mind that search engines like exact domain matches too, so you can either lessen your SEO costs or get more improved SEO results for the same cost to get good SERPs for “poker” and phrases with poker in it.

    Meanwhile, wtf would I do after paying $1 million for Rummy.com? Wow, I could be #1 for a whopping ~5,000 searches each month! 40 years from now, I MIGHT have my money back! Seriously, some of the prices people slapped on these names were ridiculous.

    #735759
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    yeah , nice domain poker.in

    what do you guys think these are worth….

    OnlineBackjack.co.uk (i would think around $10k – $20K)
    According to Sedo the .co.uk is the 3rd most valuable domain extension behind .com and .de

    FootballBetting.net ( $15k – $25k )
    According to Sedo .net is the 4th highest value extension behind .com, .de, .co.uk
    Footballbetting is typed in loads of times from all over the world – can be american football betting or in whole of europe and many other country can be for real football betting (soccer)

    So would you think its worth more the $25k ?
    Also football betting will ALWAYS be around and grow, unlike say bingo or even poker may die of in say 10-15 years (not saying it will, but theres much more of a chance then football betting ever dieing off.

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