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No, it gets complicated. But, the more criteria you have in front of you, the easier it becomes to see who to give a shot. If the bottom line doesn’t work, try someone else. Ands so on. Everyone is different – if all the programs performed the same for all of us then we would only have a handful and no one would promote the rest.
Hey guys,
I just wanted to clarify that as of March we will no longer have a negative carryover policy. Let me know if you have any questions.
Cheers,
Tarlan
[email protected]Is Casino Pays confirmed “no neg”? Mine still shows a negative.
Good question. I don’t know, and their site doesn’t say whether they carry forward negatives or not. I don’t recall why they were in the “no negative carryover” category in the first place; as BJF said, about half of the Playtechs carry over negatives, and half don’t. BJF supplied a list of Playtechs that don’t carry over negatives, and CPays wasn’t on that list.
For now I put them back in the “unknown” category. If you are personally experiencing negative carryover from a previous month (and if you are sure that this isn’t from a chargeback), then I will move them to the “programs that do carry over negative balances” category.
I just had an online chat with someone at Cpays. It seems as though negative balances do carry over by default, unless you have a special deal. Here’s a snippet of the chat:
Cpays: Hi
Dave: Hi. I have a question about the commissions.
Cpays: sure go ahead
Dave: I am wondering if negative balances are carried over from month to month.
Dave: For example, if I have someone who wins a lot and that puts me in the negative by $1,000, will that amount be carried into the next month, or is it reset to $0 at the end of the month?
Cpays: it depends on your account type… However I got a great offer for you !!!
Cpays: Locate our banner right now and I’ll give you 50% for 2 month with no Neg balance
Dave: Hmm. Well, I mainly just want to know how it is for everyone in general.
Cpays: You can ask for a no Neg balance but then you commission rate drops 5%. with my offer its 50% with no Neg.
Dave: I am kind of doing a research project, that’s why I am asking.
Dave: Thanks for the offer though.
I think I have my answer.
Cpays: ah , ok… you will find that my offer is the best one currently on the net…
Cpays: It’s for a limited time only, So if you like.. hurry up…
Dave: I’ll think about your offer and get back to you. Have a nice night!
Cpays: you too.
Dave:I am moving them to the “yes we carry over negatives” category. I am not placing them in the “sometimes” category because there is nothing in writing on their site that explains when negatives are carried forward, and when they aren’t. Special deals at the beginning of a partnership don’t really count as “sometimes,” in my opinion…. I am more interested in what happens over the long term.
You may want to add Referback to that do carry over list as well because they do carry over any chargebacks or fruad until it is paid for.
Vegas Lucky will carry over negs as well, so funny we make like 1k a month there when we are in the neg from a cashout but when we get that paid off we make nothing.. go figure!
I think pretty much every program carries forward negatives due to fraud and chargebacks. If Referback carries forward negatives from players winning, however, then they should be regrouped. I don’t think they do, though; Microgamings in general don’t do that.
Vegas Lucky will carry over negs as well, so funny we make like 1k a month there when we are in the neg from a cashout but when we get that paid off we make nothing.. go figure!
:hehe: Things that make you go “hmm.”
BJF wrote:VIP Profits does not carry over.For me they do. I have been in the hole twice…
VIP Profits do carry over negs
bonustreak wrote:VIP Profits do carry over negsI think we determined that the sports book carries over but the casino does not.
Engineer wrote:I just had an online chat with someone at Cpays. It seems as though negative balances do carry over by default, unless you have a special deal.I have their no-neg deal. All you need to do is ask.
BJF wrote:VIP Profits does not carry over.Again some general guidlines:
MG does not carry over.
Playtechs seem split about 50/50 These do NOt
Blasters
All Star
Acropolis
Kiwi
Sunny
Main St. says they are changing in March.RTG I don’t carry a lot but of the ones I do
Bodog & Inetbet carryover
VIP Profits & Wager Junction do not.Crypto
Partnerlogic & Littlewoods do not
William Hill & Peach do
Focal Click–makes it up as they go along.Oddson
Carry over for Casino Coins. I contacted Fire and Ice a while back and they were only doing add buys at that time.Vipprofits DOES carry over negatives. If my player wins then that will be deducted from my following month’s earnings.
@Engineer]I think pretty much every program carries forward negatives due to fraud and chargebacks. If Referback carries forward negatives from players winning, however, then they should be regrouped. I don’t think they do, though [/QUOTE wrote:
They dont c/f negatives. But i agree that chargebacks should – thats only fair.
Hello All,
Just to clear up something here.
Since Nov 1st 2005, VIP Profits is NO LONGER carrying over negatives for casino revenue!
Also, any negative commission amount for sports revenue will no longer affect earnings obtained through the casino and/or poker revenue stream. This means casino affiliates still get paid if the sports bettors have a good month..
Negatives will always carry over on the sports book side, that is very normal and only fair.
Players that win will in many times play those winnings back into the sports book, so if negatives would not carry over, we would be paying commission to affiliates on winnings that the sports book paid out to the player.So, the carry over is only logical in sports.
In conclusion, VIP Profits does not carry over negatives for casino revenue.
Negatives for sports will NOT affect revenue through casino.Hope this clears things up.
IOG Casinos is neg……..but I asked for them not to carry over and they did.
