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Antagonism at it’s best.
Non useful, unnecessary thread.Here we go again – good aff managers will listen to the affiliates and andjust their approach accordingly. As you can see, there is not a single affiliate here posting that they love spam, rather aff managers supporting the spam methods they employ. If you think that this kind of free feedback is useless, I do understand why you have to send unsolicited PMs to try and recruit new affiliates.
All the business just showed up. I wonder how they got word of mouth?
By offering quality, not quantity. There is nothing wrong in Bodog calling their customers, they do take care of them and they are the best retaining gambling website, period. (Do you see now how word of mouth works?!?) But Bodog doesn’t cold-call affiliates, that’s the big difference. You should look at what what works and what doesnt – it would make you a better manager. Spam doesn’t work.
As a matter of fact – I have never received a cold-call email by any of the aff programs I work with before I signed up with them. I know, how crazy is that? How did they manage to grow their business is beyond me… :tooconfus
See, you should learn from Toweradrian how it’s done. I am not in the market for a new program, but if I am ever, who do you think I am more likely to consider: you, who disregards what the affiliates think or Toweradrian, who is going for “catch more flies with honey…” approach? Who do you think I will remember as the “good” aff manager and who as the “bad” one?
I do blame it on the high turnover with some of the less successful programs, though. It’s kind of hard to think long-term, when your future with the company is short-term.
I did not send a single PM to anyone in this forum, ever.
I think it’s wrong and useless for a simple reason – it does not work.
No ethical problem at all. if it would have worked (to me) – I would send them out, regardless of what people think of it.What I meant is, that the focus here, need to be shifted away to the real important stuff..
Thanks, have faith.
Shay
Stupid;208710 wrote:Here we go again – good aff managers will listen to the affiliates and andjust their approach accordingly. As you can see, there is not a single affiliate here posting that they love spam, rather aff managers supporting the spam methods they employ. If you think that this kind of free feedback is useless, I do understand why you have to send unsolicited PMs to try and recruit new affiliates.By offering quality, not quantity. There is nothing wrong in Bodog calling their customers, they do take care of them and they are the best retaining gambling website, period. (Do you see now how word of mouth works?!?) But Bodog doesn’t cold-call affiliates, that’s the big difference. You should look at what what works and what doesnt – it would make you a better manager. Spam doesn’t work.
As a matter of fact – I have never received a cold-call email by any of the aff programs I work with before I signed up with them. I know, how crazy is that? How did they manage to grow their business is beyond me… :tooconfus
that the focus here, need to be shifted away to the real important stuff
Which are?
This is a very strange argument here. Noone here is claiming they agree that an Affiliate Manager should PM each and ever member of this forum, however, if someone sends you a specific message relating to your site, it really shouldn’t be such a concern.
Wikipedia defines spam as “…. unsolicited and sent in bulk” (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_spam).
I also don’t go through the members here and invite them to come, as it would be a waste of time, but like Renee, I often look for and email appropriate sites that may be interested in working with us. If they arent interested, they generally don’t respond or politely decline, it isnt a big deal.
Stephen
@CommissionAccount 208735 wrote:
Wikipedia defines spam as “…. unsolicited and sent in bulk” (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_spam).
Well, with a 10 message limit “bulk” is a little hard to achieve…
Personally I think this is a total non-issue.
I would actually be worried if I didn’t get the occasional solicitation – would make me think something may be wrong with my business. I have owned several brick and mortar businesses in the past, and like someone pointed out earlier, solicitations are par for the course.
What’s refreshing, is that managers are speaking their mind freely in this thread.
Dominique wrote:Personally I think this is a total non-issue.I would actually be worried if I didn’t get the occasional solicitation – would make me think something may be wrong with my business. I have owned several brick and mortar businesses in the past, and like someone pointed out earlier, solicitations are par for the course.
@casinojack 208707 wrote:
IMO, to grow any business with the, “Build it they will come” attitude is crash and burn.
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Very true!
Originally Posted by casinojack
IMO, to grow any business with the, “Build it they will come” attitude is crash and burn.Haha, if I crashed and burned I haven’t noticed :3eyes:
As a matter of fact – I have never received a cold-call email by any of the aff programs I work with before I signed up with them.
I have, from several places and repeatedly, and I considered it very annoying. Also wonder where they got my number.
When I post at a forum and I allow PMs I consider it making myself available. Someone ferreting out my phone number and calling me during dinner is a whole different story.
this discussion is quite sad… A lot of the AMs doing what you would expect, and saying they think it’s fine… a lot of punters saying this **** shouldn’t fly, and a few saying it’s part of the game.
Opt-out option for the win imo.. until then, I’ll leave this additional retarded line in my sig.. what are the forums coming to sigh.
Well, I guess we all have different points of view.I think is good to hear them all. We did go from Pm to cold call etc etc. Some are more aggressive then others I guess.
I personally rarley “cold PM”, but do PM if I seem to be hitting it off with someone.
I think the reason for my difference of opinion is I still do a lot of old school techniques ( yes still sending out post cards) to seo, etc.
This is a good thread, and I think has some good info, on both sides of the fence.
If an AM visted your site, and their product compliments your sites then I do not see the problem with them contacting you. This medium is supposed to lend to communication between programs and affiliates right?
The problem i would have is the AM who sent a PM with content not related to my sites and a blatent lie. That’s pretty lame.I would appreciate the AM who really checled out my site and offered me a supperior product or better commission.
