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December 19, 2008 at 3:21 pm #790601
vladcizsolMemberWhy would you with so many quality programs to choose from here? Often there are VERY GOOD REASONS a program ISNT certified here at CAP andI always recommend avoiding those that cant/wont/dont make the grade.
December 19, 2008 at 4:50 pm #790612Anonymous
GuestHere’s the thing from my POV.
and I have learned this (often the hard way) and have learned that Lou was very wise in his approach.
there are so many different angles involved in this industry from an aff pov that it is nearly impossible to hold extreme / rigid – requirements/expectations because any seasoned aff knows that one place does well for them and yet others say they can’t give it away.
why is this? there are several theories which include selective shaving. Whether that is true or not … it IS true that some do well with certain programs while the same affs do terrible with others …. that are praised by other seasoned affs.
This to me … means who do I believe? well the fact is they are both telling the truth.
so where I”m going with this is that while I don’t claim to speak for the Prof or CAP on their policy of certified … I can say that certified at the very least means the program has a thread here where you can not only have an alternative means of contact beside email (which is much easier ignored) but also have a venue where you can force the program to answer or else look about as bad as possible … and in forcing them to answer in front of so many affs who are the base or large part of their base of income …. you will get a much more satisfactory result than if you were only corresponding via email between just the two of you.
I have often been too quick to want blood and if we’d done things my way … there’d been less money in many of your pockets. I suspect that is true of many of my peers. Its too easy to get pissed-off at impossibly believable actions … and end up letting your own impatience be the death of you. Lou is if nothing else … learned in the art of patience.
as to what programs to promote :
My experience (and I learned the hard way) is that you should pick another aff whom you trust to be both honest in talking with you and that is likely successful because that is a combination which is the best jumping off spot i have found in ten years.
then watch the program closely. if it doesn’t look promising cut it back. another month or two (its better at that point to send thru your own testers but if not … ) give that much more time for them to prove themselves … and then yank them!
NEVER continue to promote a program that doesn’t earn money!
That’s good advice.
December 19, 2008 at 7:04 pm #790624Anonymous
InactiveOne club casino >> RTG Converts reasonably well
December 19, 2008 at 11:20 pm #790657Anonymous
InactiveThe only non-certified program I promote is Lion Slots Affiliates. I hope they get certified soon on CAP, a good program.
December 20, 2008 at 12:04 am #790662
vladcizsolMemberI hope they do too james and I am sure they will once they have the necessary budget and cash flow. :hattip:
December 20, 2008 at 2:24 am #790670Anonymous
InactiveNo I do not
December 20, 2008 at 3:02 am #790671
neophyteMemberyes i do,
as to why.. well CAP certification doesn’t mean too much to me due to the fact that chipleader didn’t get de-certified even though both of their products were involved in multi million dollar fraud/theft scandals and coverups..
on the definite plusside, it’s nice knowing all the big programs are usually pretty contactable here.
December 20, 2008 at 3:18 am #790676Anonymous
InactiveI don’t with the exception of Bodog only because I have a great affiliate manager (Alex).
December 20, 2008 at 8:37 am #790685
ravanMemberVrindavan;191334 wrote:Do you promote Non-CAP Certified Programs ?
What gives you confidence to promote a non-CAP program at start ?
In general , is it more risky wasting your time doing so due to more shaky programs ?
Thanks for sharing.Yes I do. I became an affiliate long before I’d ever heard of CAP.
But… I started out only promoting good casinos/groups where I had personally deposited & played myself. (I have played online casinos with my own real money virtually every day since early 2001!)
Equally I did not promote those rogue casinos/groups I had where I had experienced problems as a player.I would say do not touch the ‘shaky’ programs with a barge pole – not only are you likely to get ripped-off, but also be aware that it only takes one rotten apple to spoil the whole barrel…

KK
December 20, 2008 at 2:04 pm #790694Anonymous
InactiveIt’s not the deciding factor for me, but a major consideration when deciding to promote a site. Any site that is not CAP certified will not get listed on my home page or in a high exposure spot just in case.
December 20, 2008 at 11:59 pm #790711Anonymous
Inactivealthough CAP has lots of casinos listed, it barely lists any bingo affiliate programs. my guess is that its too expensive for bingo rooms to be certified here. so if you are into bingo, then you definitely advertise non certified programs…at least i do
December 21, 2008 at 5:51 am #790722Anonymous
InactiveI agree with Gamtrak. It’s not a deciding factor, but something I strongly consider. I’m always happy to see the programs we work with as certified CAP partners. Making news and information about their programs more readily available to me.
I promote iNetBet, LionSlots, PlayersPalace, Red Returns, etc. These are programs that I feel good about promoting as they’ve treated me with professionalism, make timely payments, respond to emails quickly, and I’m very happy working with them… even though they are not CAP certified.
December 21, 2008 at 12:40 pm #790739Anonymous
InactiveI like the fact that we have a recourse with CAP programs, and that is my main reason for being here all these years. Things with CAP programs tend to get straightened out, one way or another.
Uncertified programs – I do promote some, but usually only if I already know the aff manager and know I will be taken care of, or if I am absolutely sure that I can trust them for some other reason.
As a rule, I prefer CAP programs.
December 22, 2008 at 6:30 pm #790811Anonymous
InactiveI too promote programs that aren’t certified, because I was promoting them way before I joined CAP.
William Hill is an obvious one but there are others. However, these days, I’m more willing to take a chance on a new program BECAUSE it is certified here.
I’ve just started to add some banners and bingo stuff for Affiliate Arena properties as an example. The fact they have a presence here means I’ll give them some exposure and see what happens.
That’s because I know that if I’m not happy, there is a place I can ask questions, get answers or – if all goes terribly wrong – get some help if needed.
December 22, 2008 at 6:53 pm #790812Anonymous
InactiveThe only non CAP program I work with is the Joy Of Bingo group (part of wager junction?)
They have worked really well for me with fast payouts and they even sent me a bottle of whisky for christmas
Apart from that I always stick to CAP approved progams for obvious reasons. -
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