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If you are an adult of say 40 years and you have an affair with a 16 year old girl, who freely consents to the arrangement, reads poetry and longfellow and can discuss world affairs at a higher level then your forty year old mates at the pub. Would you be excused?
In my state after you made that argument the presiding judge would lecture you at length about the error of your ways before sentencing you to prison.
Maturity does not over ride the legal age of consent.
You can’t have sex with 16 olds who have gumption, you can’t enter a legal contract with them, you can’t serve them alcohol or cigarettes and if you take them into a land based casino you’ll be asked to leave.
You are entitled to an opinion Axl, but in this case I just think the position you are taking on this one issue is seriously flawed in the eyes of the law and not advisable.
Professor wrote:If you are an adult of say 40 years and you have an affair with a 16 year old girl, who freely consents to the arrangement, reads poetry and longfellow and can discuss world affairs at a higher level then your forty year old mates at the pub. Would you be excused?In my state after you made that argument the presiding judge would lecture you at length about the error of your ways before sentencing you to prison.
Maturity does not over ride the legal age of consent.
You can’t have sex with 16 olds who have gumption, you can’t enter a legal contract with them, you can’t serve them alcohol or cigarettes and if you take them into a land based casino you’ll be asked to leave.
You are entitled to an opinion Axl, but in this case I just think the position you are taking on this one issue is seriously flawed in the eyes of the law and not advisable.
What does sex with a minor or age of consent have to do with having a job in internet marketing? :blush:
The law states the minimum age of employment. If that age is stated as 16, or 14 for that matter, then having a job as an internet marketer is fine with me and I do not see that as a flawed view.
I don’t understand why you would want to use an analogy of a child molestation to explain why a 16yr old shouldnt do online marketing, that’s sick and there is absolutely no connection.
If what we are doing is illegal for a 16yr old its illegal for us too!
The issue is not so much online marketing, it’s marketing casinos.
Probably if he would maket xboxes or chocolates or tennis balls the issue would be fairly moot, unless he maintained an nventory. I think there are laws abut being responsible for merchandise as well as other people’s money.
I think that condoning an underage person to market online casinos is wrong. I also think that working with someone who isn’t old enough to gamble (land and online) would/could present an even more sever case in terms of the legal issues already on the table. This, is my opinion ONLY and should be taken with no offense to anyone, please.
While you may not be permitted to purchase liquor or to gamble in my book a 20 year old IS an adult and I have no issue with you being an affiliate or working in our business.
That being said there is a WORLD of difference between a 20 year old and a 16 year old.
__________________well said. and I thought a fair anology when the point was what the law is going to think; not what we think morally.
the law is always going to come down much harder on a situation involving someone considered to be “underage” and in this instance that’s a real possibility.
yes I agree there are some 16 year olds who are much better company, more responsible and more ambitious than some 40 year olds I know. … in fact there are quite a few. But if I got caught and charged with something that had to do with subject where there are laws prohibiting underage participation; I’d be in much more trouble if there was an underage person involved in the situation.
can see where I’m coming from?
axl wrote:internet marketing?This is not about internet marketing as you well know. Why pitch red herrings in attempts to cloud the issue, eh?
I’d applaud a 16 year old for the drive to establish a web site and to market products (suitable his peers or products of a non adult nature) that he’d build into an ongoing business concern.
But @ 16 years old promoting gambling is not an option. Playing semantics may make it sit better with you axl, but that doesn’t make it morally correct. imo Professor makes these excellent points.
Professor wrote:Lets not get so silly in the pursuit of defending civil liberties that we lose all credibility and come off as nutters. If we start advocating children participating in the promotion of gambling the general public would DEMAND that the government take serious actions against our industry and they would have the moral high ground to take that position. Lets not allienate millions of parents, please, we already have enough trouble with the far right wing wanting to legislate us into non existance.Exactly. He can get his feet wet marketing ringtones and running a lyrics site that offers links to buying music and all kinds of suitable things.
Gambling is legally an adult activity and we must obey the law here.
Just wondering if this young man (apparently successful) is “testing” the casinos program, games, software, support, payment of winnings etc. that he is promoting? If so, how is he establishing a casino account, even a “free play” account requires a DOB. Is playing at a casinos’ “free” account considered “playing” or “gambling”? How about setting up a Neteller account? Would be very easy to transfer from a “free” account to a “real” account if you have Neteller funds available, which if he’s getting paid by the casinos, he must have a Neteller account.
My personal opinion is wait until until he is of “legal” age of 18 (the same age required to join the Military and die for America).
The law differs from country to country
To me, only common sense counts
I am with Axl
(i know my posts are always short)
denpubl wrote:Just wondering if this young man (apparently successful) is “testing” the casinos program, games, software, support, payment of winnings etc. that he is promoting?This was my thought.
Why would I trust the opinions of a 16 year-old that is not entitled to play the games. He’s either lying to the casinos to get access – or he’s lying to us with his reviews. Either way – the whole premise for the site is off.
Additionally – to get back to Wager2WinUK’s question ….
I’d just do back and say :
– it’s 6 months minimum (that tests his financial metal)
– that you only accept payments by credit cardThen you can let the Credit card company do the age verification thing. If they give him a credit card – accept the payments mate.
:clapper:Here’s my take on the subject. A 16 yr old is not of the age of consent; therefore, he cannot enter in or be obligated to any legal contract without a parent or guardian cosigner. His affiliation with any sites that he’s promoting my not have any legal contract with him without their knowledge because of his age. With that this kid doe’s not have any freedoms of speech being denied him because his age prohibits his inclusion without parent or guardian cosignatories.
How old is the other partner?
They are only asking for advertising for their site. If they are underaged, isn’t it up to their affiliate programs and webhost to determine age restrictions?
Either way, I believe it comes down to whether or not you’re comfortable with selling them banner space. I can’t think of any way that you would be held liable for their participation in promoting poker. Even when one could advertise online gambling via Yahoo and Google, there was never any screening of ad buyer age.
I have read a few things in this post that are just plain wrong in the U.S. Bear in mind that I am not an attorney, but I do teach Business Law at the college level, so I try to stay up on contracts to some degree.
You can enter into a contract with a minor, and the courts will force you to honor a contract with a minor, but the court will not force the minor to honor the contract. That is the long and short of why you do not enter into any kind of contract with a minor in the U.S.
That is why there should be cosignatories.
I’m not a lawyer, so I can’t really speak about this. Yes, there is a morally point of view, but it’s a grey area…
When I was 16, I loved programming and designing, so it would be wonderful to have an internet connection in those days. If I would also promote casinos I don’t know…About lyric’s sites, it’s better to avoid them. The music industry are starting to chase them, and they talk about heavy fines, and even jail…
The only way people could imagine a young girl making money was by selling her body
Dominique, that thought alone is awful. I’m glad things changed a bit in these last few years.
