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Of course poker, sports betting, and others have different situations concerning negative balances, but we still must think about bonuses and others, that sometimes turns your balance negative.
I’m still posting each thread, to each specific forum. It will take a while… sleepy.gif
Engineer did a wonderful job working on this not too long ago
Good thread there! But I want replies to my specific answers:
– Some programs remove the negative carry over, but they also remove the player. I want to know which do this.
– Others ask you to require this. I want everyone to know with which programs this is necessary.
– I want updated information about this. Many changes have been made in the last few months.
Thanks Pokermonger for the thread. Engineer did an excellent job take a look. greek39
Yes, that’s a great thread. But I want specific public replies to my questions, from each account manager, so that each program that does negative carry overs see that there are other programs that don’t do that, and without special rules. In the past, some affiliate managers told me that it was impossible. But it isn’t.
This can be very valuable to us all, especially affiliates that have negative 10k
My time is really scarce, but I will give hours of my time to this, because this is really important.Ok, all post made (I was going crazy…). Now lets wait for the replies.
The first one was Kate, from 32Red:
Quote:32Red Affiliates does not carry over negative balances – if you end the month with a negative balance, it will revert to zero on the 1st of the new month.Also, earnings from each product are ring-fenced, so any negative balance on one product will not affect your earnings from any of our other sites in that month.
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86568
This is what I want to hear
And this is even better
Quote:Great idea for a thread!Yes you were going crazy. Not sure this was called for. Your campaign reminds me of the infamous “forum spammer” threads.
The difference is that I’m not earning anything, and working for free, for you.
For me, this information is worth thousands. I could have sent a private PM to each affiliate manager, and keeping all the info for myself, but why not making this public, and share it with you?Bingo Reward
Quote:Please note that we neither carry negatives forward, nor remove players from your account.http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86660
Casino Coins
Quote:1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No – a winning player may spend a million afterwards which wouldnt be fair to the webmaster that delivered them if we removed them for an initial win.3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No4) Any restriction?
If we see there is some type of abuse of no negative carry over we terminate partnership.http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86661
Bingo Program
1) Do you carry over negative balance? – No
2) Is the winning player removed from the account? – No, once a player is referred by an affiliate it will be his forever.
3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement? – No
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86670
AllStar Affiliates
1) Do you carry over negative balance? No.
2) Is the winning player removed from the account? No, but this does not affect the affiliate.
3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement? No, it is already stipulated in our terms and agreements.
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86667
Vip Profits
Quote:1) Do you carry over negative balance?
For Casino Revenue NO
For Sports Revenue, YES.
Note here that any negative in sports will NOT affect your casino Revenue!2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
When wiping out a negative for sports, yes, the player will be removed.3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
There is no such agreement in effect, if an affiliate has this desire, we can discuss it.http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86671
And thank you Mário for your kind words
Quote:Webmaster 7, thanks for making this effort.
There have been many misunderstandings about how VIP Profits deal with negatives, despite the explanations.Gaming Partners
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No, Gaming Partners does not carry over a negative monthly balance in an affiliate’s account.
2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No, winning players are not removed from an affiliate’s account.
3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
As we do not carry over a negative balance, the affiliate need not ask!
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86680
As for the “restriction” question, I should have specified that I meant if we needed to be a special kind of affiliate. An old affiliate, a new affiliate, or a big affiliate. Some programs have special rules.
G3 Partner
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No4) Any restriction?
Nohttp://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86682
Eheh, so many no’s
It’s been an overwhelming response. My eyes are a bit tired, so I’m gonna rest a little.
It’s 1:20 AM here, but lets continue this:
Rewards Affiliates
wager model can not go negative
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86758
Casino Profit Share
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No, negatives are not carried over AND a negative result on one of our casinos does not affect positive earnings on another.2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No, the winning player remains tagged to the affiliate account. More often than not the player will return and play back some of the winnings and it only seems fair that the affiliate earn a commission from this playback.3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No, as no negative carryover is our standard agreement.4) Any restriction?
No restriction with regards to negative carryover whatsoever. No negative carryover is the rule and there are no instances where this rule is changed. You’ll never find yourself “in the red” with us.http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86760
True Earning
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No. All negative balances as a results of player wins are zeroed at the end of the month, and you start the new month with a clean slate. The only balance we carry forward is Chargebacks – carried forward only if the revenue generated is not sufficient to cover the amount of the chargeback in the given month.2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No. The winning player is not removed.3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No. All affiliates will have the rule applied – no negative balance carried forward as a result of player wins.4) Any restriction?
The only restriction that will apply is, as stated in point 1 above, if the negative value is as a result of chargebacks.http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86746
This is indeed a good idea, and I am sure that many affiliates will find the information to be useful.
Kamiel, I really thank you for your words. I also think it’s really useful to have all this official information in one place.
Income Access
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No:
Lasseters
AusVegas
Jackpotjoy
UltimateBetYes: CasinoWebcam
2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No, however if an affiliate is concerned with a particular player they can email us with details and we will be happy to look into it.3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No4) Any restriction?
No- If so these would be stated in the affiliate agreement.http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86743
Island Poker
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
NO
(only in the rare case of charge-backs…)2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
NO3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
NO4) Any restriction?
NOhttp://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86740
Doyles Room
Regarding your concern, here at Doyle’s Room we do not handle negative balances that carry over nor are winning players removed from an account. Including scenarios were there are bonuses, we still will pay the commission to the affiliates depending on the players rake, so there will be no negative balances.
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/showthread.php?p=86722
Casino Partners
1/ Yes.
2/ No.
3/ No.
4/ No.
Obviously we’re looking in every demands and do whatever it takes to keep an affiliate on board when there is a serious negative balance.http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/casino-partners-negative-carry-over-rules.14503.html
Focal Click
1. No.
2. The winning player is not removed from your account, but the wins are zeroed out for that property they won at.
3. No.
4. No.
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/focal-click-negative-carry-over-rules.14512.html
Gamble Gains
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
Yes we do.
2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
Yup, if we come to an agreement to take the burden of the win then I’d consider this buying the player from your account.
3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
Yes. If an affiliate requests a negative balance to be removed it will be handled on an individual basis.
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/gamble-gains-negative-carry-over-rules.14515.html
I hope this was what you were looking for and great thread btw!
Thank you Dave! It has cost me some hours, but I think it will save affiliates and managers much more, avoiding the same replies over and over
Now it’s just a question of updating each created thread, or even this one :bigsmile:ReferSpot
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No4) Any restriction?
Nohttp://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/referspot-negative-carry-over-rules.14540.html
Gaming Income
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No. The player remains in the affiliate account.3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
No. it’s automatic.4) Any restriction?
No restriction for casino & poker. For sportsbook a minimum of 5 wagering sportsbook players are required for Negative carry over to be wiped out. howeve this sportsbook restriction is not currently enforced.
Also any account abusing the “no carry over” agreement will be terminated.http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/gaming-income-negative-carry-over-rules.14519.html
Gambling Federation
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
Yes we do, since we pay webmasters on a weekly basis. This is the trade off we have to compose with in order to remain in business.
2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
No
3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
If we find there is an unreasonably large win in an affiliate’s account, we can work through an agreement either reduce or manage the roll over.
4) Any restriction?
I think the above answers this.
Please note that we are always willing and open to discussion with webmasters in regards to roll overs.
http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/gambling-federation-negative-carry-over-rules.14517.html
Referback
1) Do you carry over negative balance?
No we do not. ReferBack does not carryover negative balances – at the end of each month the whole game starts again!2) Is the winning player removed from the account?
Due to the above – no!3) The webmaster has to request a non negative carry over agreement?
As above – no!4) Any restriction?
4 out of 4 – No again!http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/referback-negative-carry-over-rules.14539.html
And I’m calling it a day! It’s 2 AM here, and believe me I have lots of pending works to do. But I need to rest my eyes a little bit. They are really tired…
See you tomorrow!
