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Hi again all,
the day will come when people get tired of the same old bullshit from google because they’re getting #1 rankings from sites more concerned with links than content.
of course …. I may die before that happens but i bet the day comes…….
antoine wrote:Honestly the whole link building thing is a colossal waste of time and I am angry that we even have to do it. I would much rather pay people to build content but of course google prefers for us to play this little game.Who says google really prefers it?
I don’t play that game. I produced a google authority site doing just what you said – creating quality content.
When I first started out I linked like crazy – after a year or so I took them all down because most had gone bad and I haven’t linked to much of anything except a handful of sites since.
I prefer linking to authority sites and not expecting anything back. You can count the number of link exchanges I have done in 5 years on your fingers.
You can call me mad and you can call me crazy and you can say I don’t know what I’m talking about – (all of which is likely true
) – but I did produce an authority site on that principle.The proof is in the pudding.
Linking beyond some links going out to a few really good sites isn’t necessary IMO. When you first get started it helps the spiders to find you, so you need some incoming links to start. But beyond that I think it’s a lot of hype and the days when it used to work like a charm are gone.
You can spend your time securing links, or you can spend your time creating a unique site. Both can be frustrating, but at least with a unique site I got something to show for it.
Notice I said unique, and not huge or anything. Different from what’s out there. That ought to be enough of a challenge without messing around with links.
And once your site is remarkable, incoming links come all on their own.
And THAT is what google really likes.
Thank you dom for your insight:) perhaps from what you have said she was right then and i have been wasting my time worrying to much about links?
I think of it like this:
Who would I like to be associated with by google, what would be the best group of sites to be listed with if I had to pick 5 sites?
And I make sure that’s who I am thrown in a pot with.
When google follows my links, I want it to see sites like Casinomeister. Whatever sites I respect out there. Sites I wish I could have created.
I am not saying that you cannot get an advantage using linking schemes. But is it really necessary? Can you get a better advantage by doing something else?
I do agree with your friend, I think PR beyond 2 or 3 is for the birds. The only people paying you for PR are people buying links. For the majority of it’s existance G&C was PR4. I think it’s finally PR 5 now. Haven’t checked in a few months.
Google doesn’t even show your real PR. When G&C links to a site, more often than not it doesn’t even show in backlinks. Yet it has huge linking power due to the few link exchanges it does. Google cloaks it’s true link policy as best it can. What all goes into consideration is anybody’s guess.
I am not really saying links are not important, I think they probably are extremely important.
If you link to tons of mediocre or even bad sites, thats who you put yourself on a level with.
For starters, I won’t link to anyone who has a lot of outgoing links. I don’t want to be thrown in the same pot with them.
If you link to 100 people, and they each link to 100 people, you are in the same pot as the lot of them. Then how do you do any quality control?
I see it like what they say about AIDS, you sleep with everyone your partner has slept with.
Reading through the posts here makes me shudder, sounds like people are exchanging links with a bunch of crooks. Now, what does that say about your site? If they screw their link partners, are you really sure they don’t try to cheat google at every turn?
Link exchanges are a waste of time.I bought a website that the previous owner has over 1000 link exchanges on.It is NOWHERE in the search engines.My websites in serps have probably less than 10 casino backlinks I write articles and publish them every week on my server and google seems to find them.
I definetly feel links and pr have a purpose but take a backseat
to content that is unique. What gripes me is one that asks for a
link no less than 15 times a week, when you all ready have a link for
their site but they don’t feel it’s good enough, because you’re a friend
it should be main page or something. Of course that would be the same good
friend that took a unique keyword of mine with out at least asking
if I minded, much less the company that paid me for copyrights to it….
that certainly puts it on my back burner…Link building is a waste of time. Good content creates it’s own links. The only time you should build links is to get a few keys links right when you launch a site to get indexed. This is my link building plan.
Most comments seem valid and it’s good to see other people’s opinions on links.
To answer the question, what do I hate about link building, the answer would be anything but the worst is an idio who spams me t o try and get a front page link on a good site and offers a link on a pr0 site wth 5000 outgoing links.
There is no doubt that content is king, but I think that writing off link exchange is a bit premature…
Dom I agree with your post. However, I donlt know if starting a new site today following that phiosophy will work any longer…
If you link to tons of mediocre or even bad sites, thats who you put yourself on a level with
excellent point IMO
