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September 25, 2008 at 7:11 am #779833
tomMemberbet365 affiliates team is travelling to Barcelona for CAP Euro conference today until Sunday, so we might be delayed to r eplyon this thread. Thanks for your understanding.
October 2, 2008 at 9:47 am #780673
tomMemberIf a customer visits the bet365 website via your affiliate link but does not sign up, then a cookie is placed on the customer’s PC. Providing the customer does not delete his cookies, if he revisits the bet365 website direct at a later date and opens an account then the account will be tagged to the affiliate (provided visitors signs up within 45 days). This is fine in the vast majority of circumstances.
In the more unusual event of a customer visiting the bet365 website via an affiliate link but not opening an account, and then at a later date entering the bet365 website via a different bet365 tracking URL, then the original cookie would be over-written and replaced with the tracking code of the last referring URL.
We do understand that some affiliates may change their own links to try to get around the current problems in China, however, we cannot guarantee that any such action will work all of the time.
Thanks to all of you which ran concluding tracking tests.
October 28, 2008 at 6:22 am #784311
GacectioxoriaMemberBet365 has a lot of problems recently.They should do something to get the trust from affiliates.
October 28, 2008 at 8:54 am #784323
Asaf ShachafMemberEbwin,
If you have experienced any problems please feel free to contact me [email protected] so that this may be resolved. We work very hard to ensure trust from our affiliates.
Kind Regards
Kelly
October 28, 2008 at 10:39 am #784337
e-GamblingMarketMemberI saw their issues frequently too
ebwin;183170 wrote:Bet365 has a lot of problems recently.They should do something to get the trust from affiliates.October 28, 2008 at 10:53 am #784339Anonymous
InactiveA lot of squeaky wheels doesn’t equal a lot of problems.
:tongue:Bet365 have my trust – simply put – they ARE a quality program.
:inlove:October 28, 2008 at 12:05 pm #784349
GacectioxoriaMemberI would never join Bet365.
October 28, 2008 at 5:43 pm #784410Anonymous
InactiveIf a customer visits the bet365 website via your affiliate link but does not sign up, then a cookie is placed on the customer’s PC. Providing the customer does not delete his cookies, if he revisits the bet365 website direct at a later date and opens an account then the account will be tagged to the affiliate (provided visitors signs up within 45 days). This is fine in the vast majority of circumstances.
In the more unusual event of a customer visiting the bet365 website via an affiliate link but not opening an account, and then at a later date entering the bet365 website via a different bet365 tracking URL, then the original cookie would be over-written and replaced with the tracking code of the last referring URL.
WOW, I did not know that. This would explain my lousy conversion with Bet365.
Gooner – I cannot imagine how much you lose to other affiliates, considering the exposure you give to Bet 365.
This is the cookie explanation per Bet 365 FAQ:
Visitors who click-thru on your referral link to any of the bet365 websites are cookied for 45 days. That means that even if your potential customer visits the Sports, Casino, Poker, Games or Bingo site and for some reason doesn’t register straight away, bet365 will still recognise them as your referral (provided they register within 45 days). If they establish an account while the cookie is in effect, they are your customer for life! While other companies have 15 day cookies and some are eliminating that recognition process altogether, bet365 appreciates and rewards your hard work.
There is NO disclaimer that the cookie will be overwritten! So much for reading the T&C before signing up…You live and learn, I guess…
October 28, 2008 at 7:37 pm #784423Anonymous
Inactive@Stupid 183290 wrote:
Gooner – I cannot imagine how much you lose to other affiliates, considering the exposure you give to Bet 365.
I prefer this stance of “last clicked” to “first clicked”. I believe that it rewards the affiliate that creates the customer desire to signup. This is how I’d like all cookie programs to work.
While we do have banners dotted around the site, the vast majority of our traffic to bet365 is through the review pages that are targetted at getting a click and a signup.
First click programs are often dominated by sites who offer pop-ups on the affiliate site (thus creating a cookie). These sites then attempt to dominate SEO and have cookies stored on many more computers than they ever were trying to sell the program to.
:Cry:Last click means that if they visit the program via your site to signup – no matter who they visited BEFORE – then they are potentially your customer.
My sign/click ratios at BET365 are better than nearly ANY other program – so Last Click works best for me and my sites.
:hattip:October 28, 2008 at 7:46 pm #784424Anonymous
InactiveGotta say that Bet365 have consistantly been one of the best progs out there, and I’ve been signed up since 2003. Never had a prob with them in all honesty.
October 28, 2008 at 8:24 pm #784425Anonymous
InactiveI beg to differ. With browsers and toolbars eliminating 99% of the pop-ups, they are things of the past. I cannot remember the last time I visited a gambling website and a pop-up actually went through. Cookie stuffing may be a problem but on a very very small scale.
Also, the first click was the one generating the player, not the last. The first click is the one sparking the interest and without it – it’s free advertising and branding, something I don’t do.
Bet 365 is a good program only as far as payments are concerned – always on time. I cannot say if their stats are fair, because they have very robust reporting and it’s anyone’s guess what’s going on in your account. Heck, I wasn’t even able to get player betting details from my affiliate manager. Plus, with negative carry-over and now the actual tracking revealed, I don’t find them aff-friendly at all and will not advertise them. I am sure if the affiliate puts an efford, they could remove the negative (i.e. on a case-by-case), but there is plenty of competition around, therefore Bet365 should be the one making the efford, not affiliates.
My sign/click ratios at BET365 are better than nearly ANY other program – so Last Click works best for me and my sites.
You cannot claim this in whole honesty – you have no idea what your sign/click ratio would be with first click and Bet 365. But trust me, it will be times higher.
October 28, 2008 at 8:31 pm #784426Anonymous
InactiveBet365 has a lot of problems recently.They should do something to get the trust from affiliates.
Second that. Recently there have been a lot of issues related to Bet365. I have to agree with SBR’s RATING B+.
October 28, 2008 at 8:37 pm #784427Anonymous
InactiveFunny how a couple of years ago there was a massive uproar about lifetime cookies. This caused such an outcry that most programs changed that to the last click method. Suddenly it is now the other way round?
Also, the first click was the one generating the player, not the last. The first click is the one sparking the interest and without it – it’s free advertising and branding, something I don’t do.
I disagree – Just because you enticed somebody to click a link, does not make you the one who eventually turns him into a player. Somebody may have landed on your site 2 years ago and clicked your link.. This year, I negotiate a special deal with a casino and this person happens to find this deal and clicks on my link and registers – I would argue that I was the one who generated that player.. without the cookie been rewritten.. two years later you would be credited for my work for somebody that did not sign up with you.
October 28, 2008 at 8:42 pm #784429Anonymous
InactiveI don’t know where you got the 2 years from, or life-time. We are talking about 45 day cookies here. I agree that life-time cookie is plain stupid and I think 45 days is very long, but at least give me a week, don’t instantly rewrite my cookie.
I guess it boils down to whether you are in “advertising” or “sales”. If you are in advertising you are the one sparking the interest of the player, if you are in sales, you are the one closing the deal. I prefer to think of myself as advertiser of the casinos, hence the first click is important to me, therefore I am dropping bet365. For those who are into selling the casinos, last click is the best option.
October 28, 2008 at 8:49 pm #784430Anonymous
InactiveWell since you obviously agree on the principle of rewritable cookies.. why not address the issue that you actually want to? The length of time it should be valid then.
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