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“The only search engine that relies on Dmoz is netscape.”
Netscape uses Google. Google uses DMOZ. But apparently you are saying that only Netscape has links to DMOZ categories. Even that is incorrect. AOL, Excite and Alexa do.
http://search.aol.com/aolcom/search?invocationType=topsearchbox.%2Faolcom%2Fjsp%2Fsearch.jsp&query=gambling
http://dir.excite.com/d/search/p/excite/?c=directory&s=gambling
http://info.alexa.com/Also, All the Web’s “clusters” at the bottom of the page are DMOZ.
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?avkw=fogg&cat=web&cs=utf-8&q=gambling&_sb_lang=pref
But the traffic you get from the directory itself is not the main value of a directory listing. All the search engines, including Inktomi, crawl dmoz. All assign some algorithmic value to its links. Google in particular relies on DMOZ for a human counterbalance to its bot link crawling.
But google crawls every website so that doesn’t mean much. I do agree that a listing in dmoz would help page rank, but otherwise i doubt it makes much of a difference.
Originally posted by Classics
The Roulette category is not very small. It has 38 listed sites, and maybe a couple dozen or more waiting. Unfortunately that may be looked at as too large for a first category in Gambling.First time applicants should apply to the smallest category possible. In this case no way should you apply to the main Roulette category instead of the Roulette/Systems. Roulette/Sytems is still 25 sites, but you have a much better shot there.
The same with the Juggling category. You have no chance at all of being accepted to Arts/Performing_Arts/Circus/Juggling/. You should apply to the Devil Stick or Software or History_and_Collecting subcategories.
Conflict of interest isn’t a problem at all so don’t worry about that. Just declare your affiliations.
DMOZ is the most important thing on the Internet, and is even more so since November. All the major search engines rely heavily on it for good reason.
It indicates on the DMOZ site that a category with fewer than 100 sites is a small category and a good category for a beginner to edit.
DMOZ sure isn’t perfect, but the main problem is that not enough people volunteer to edit categories where they want to submit sites. Medieval architechture might just need one editor, but a general affiliate info category likely gets thousands of submissions. That means multiple people need to volunteer to edit it, and work their way up the responsibility ladder tio be trusted with that much responsibility. [/B]I can understand why more people don’t volunteer. When you volunteer, submit perfectly worded descriptions of sites and an intelligent well-written application, and you get a form letter rejecting your application within a couple of hours with NO comments about why you’ve been rejected, then you become disillusioned.
Had I been given ANY idea in my form letter of why my application had been rejected, I would have a lot more of the “warm and fuzzy” than I do now. There is a section in the form rejection letter for specific comments regarding why my application wasn’t accepted, but it wasn’t used.
That’s just plain discouraging for most people.
I’m not beating up on DMOZ, but I think the general impression that a lot of webmasters have of DMOZ is on the negative side, which certainly can’t help DMOZ become increasinly important.
“It indicates on the DMOZ site that a category with fewer than 100 sites is a small category and a good category for a beginner to edit.”
Unfortunately Gambling is just one step up from Adult. There are different, unwritten rules. Also, that 100 sites includes sites waiting to be reviewed, which you have no way to know about. I doubt there are 60 Roulette sites waiting, but there could easily be a few dozen if the category has gotten a lot of spam submissions. Still the basic principle is if there is a subcategory that could be applied for, then do it. You can move up to the larger category in a week or less if you show you can do a good job.
Originally posted by Classics
“It indicates on the DMOZ site that a category with fewer than 100 sites is a small category and a good category for a beginner to edit.”Unfortunately Gambling is just one step up from Adult. There are different, unwritten rules. Also, that 100 sites includes sites waiting to be reviewed, which you have no way to know about. I doubt there are 60 Roulette sites waiting, but there could easily be a few dozen if the category has gotten a lot of spam submissions. Still the basic principle is if there is a subcategory that could be applied for, then do it. You can move up to the larger category in a week or less if you show you can do a good job.
Ah! Good feedback indeed. Thanks, Classics!
I recently submitted a new site. How long does it take on the average to find out if one is accepted?
There is no average. Sometime between one hour and one hundred years.
I have submitted countless sites to DMOZ during my career as a web designer. Each and every time…they were rejected…with no explaination as to why or I simply got back no response.
And I have been rejected as an editor there a few times as well…for both non-gambling related categories and gambling categories.
A few of the rejection letters (for editor applications) did give me some explainations. And I assure you…they were dead wrong almost everytime.
I got back things like “Could even open such and such website…” Even though I double checked the link before I submitted…even checked after I got the rejection letter…and yes the link still worked.
Or I would get something like “Such and such site has nothing to do with the category….” When in fact if the reviewer had actually gone to the site and looked around…they would see that it did.
When you get back responses like these…It leaves a feeling that the editors and reviewers are not doing there jobs. So why do SEs rely on DMOZ so much?
I’ve taken Classics’s advice and re-applied to a new category.
Games: Roleplaying: Genres: Horror: All Flesh Must Be Eaten
Wish me luck! I’ll let you guys know how it turns out…
