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http://dmoz.org/Arts/Performing_Arts/Circus/Juggling/ – yep and they need a volunteer.
Complete and application and send them a pseronal email telling them a bit about yourself. Once you get in, you are sorted. Also if you need an email address for someone at DMOZ send me a PM as I have a few editors personal email addresses.
The thing that annoyed me was when the site application form crashed so I tried to send an email to the editor saying why I was submitting again and it came up that the editor was no longer valid. What chance does a site have of getting in the directory if they list an editor that is no longer doing the job????
Easy to see why their importance is diminishing.
The Roulette category is not very small. It has 38 listed sites, and maybe a couple dozen or more waiting. Unfortunately that may be looked at as too large for a first category in Gambling.
First time applicants should apply to the smallest category possible. In this case no way should you apply to the main Roulette category instead of the Roulette/Systems. Roulette/Sytems is still 25 sites, but you have a much better shot there.
The same with the Juggling category. You have no chance at all of being accepted to Arts/Performing_Arts/Circus/Juggling/. You should apply to the Devil Stick or Software or History_and_Collecting subcategories.
Conflict of interest isn’t a problem at all so don’t worry about that. Just declare your affiliations.
DMOZ is the most important thing on the Internet, and is even more so since November. All the major search engines rely heavily on it for good reason.
Classics-
Are you an editor there?
No, but a ton of useful information is on their public message board http://resource-zone.com/ubbthreads.php
Thanks for the link–I’ll take a look and maybe give it another go.
Can you explain which search engines rely on it other than netscape?
Google and Teoma/Ask rely on it a lot. AlltheWeb/FAST a bit less so, and AltaVista a bit less than that. Only Inktomi doesn’t pay much attention, and they have horrible results partly because of that. Since Google is most everywhere now, that is the main thing.
hmmmm pretty interesting. I thought most search engines had stopped using DMOZ some time ago.
Thanks for the tip Classics.
How could the typical webmaster get a portal listed in DMOZ? For instance if I wanted to get a site like this one listed:
http://www.casinos–casinos.net/
What would I have to do to get listed in DMOZ in the appropriate Gambling related category? I have read the guidelines and submitted numerous portals with no luck, so I am curious.
Do you have any gambling portals listed in DMOZ?
Something like the casinos–casinos site wouldn’t be listed because it doesn’t have original content. Compare that to this site. Night and day. The casinos–casinos site mostly gathers together information that is available on the casino sites themselves. That might be useful to surfers, but its just a copy to dmoz, since they list the casinos themselves.
The way to get a site similar to that listed would be to right real, genuine, in-depth reviews of each casino, not lists of features or copying the casino promo text, but first hand reviews. Dmoz doesn’t list online casino directory-type sites, but they do have a specific category for reviews where jacknoir and fairbet and others are listed.
There is no category for “portals”. You either need gambling game strategy content (the gambling category is under “games” after all), or reviews or original news content.
One thing you can see on resource-zone is over time they really cut back everywhere on directory type sites. They don’t want to list sites that link TO other sites, they want to list sites that get linked FROM other sites, if you get what I mean.
Answer me this than. Why is this website not listed under affiliate programs:
All original hand written articles. Not 2 words have been copied from elsewhere.
“Not 2 words have been copied from elsewhere.”
http://www.omegafx.com/htmls/advertising.html
http://www.dotaffiliate.com/articles/advertising.htmlhttp://www.omegafx.com/ is listed, and even is linked from the dotaffiliate site.
Obviously they won’t be both listed unless you have a huge amount of content unique to each, and the editor can find it easily.
Also the dotaffiliate site covers a lot of territory so it would have to be in a general category and there could be very big backlogs. You have submitted it, right?
DMOZ sure isn’t perfect, but the main problem is that not enough people volunteer to edit categories where they want to submit sites. Medieval architechture might just need one editor, but a general affiliate info category likely gets thousands of submissions. That means multiple people need to volunteer to edit it, and work their way up the responsibility ladder tio be trusted with that much responsibility.
Give me a break. Omegafx is a corporate website, and dot affiliate is a site about affiliate programs. If you actually went to omegafx.com you would note that page you listed isn’t even linked to.
I guess websites aren’t allowed to link to corporate pages anymore. Might as well delete half the directory.
“Give me a break. Omegafx is a corporate website, and dot affiliate is a site about affiliate programs. If you actually went to omegafx.com you would note that page you listed isn’t even linked to.”
It must be linked from somewhere since it came up for a search.
You said the material wasn’t copied. It is, at least as far as an editor would be concerned checking it out.And what does the statement about linking to corporate websites have to do with this?
The point is DMOZ is fairly valuable, and a secondary point is they seek to list original content, not anything copied. Maybe dotaffiliate deserves a listing of its own in addition to omegafx, but that isn’t on the topic here. There are plenty of sites that deserve listings that don’t have one.
‘It must be linked from somewhere since it came up for a search.
You said the material wasn’t copied. It is, at least as far as an editor would be concerned checking it out’Yes you’re completely correct. It used to be linked to from the main omegafx.com index page. But that was modified in its entirety several months ago. Maybe someone else is linking to it too? I guess I’ll have to make a press release ordering everyone to quit linking to this page since it doesn’t please the dmoz gods.
‘And what does the statement about linking to corporate websites have to do with this?’
Apparently if I have shared content on a corporate website and a different website this is bad. I should therefore go out of my way not to have content on the corporate website that is representative of what my normal websites are about. I was unaware of this fact. I’ll make sure that in the future if I write an article that it’s only listed in one place. I guess you should also contact dmoz as thier directory is also available on google and this would constitute duplicate content. It’s odd dmoz doesn’t abide by it’s own rules.
Anyway I could really care less about my website being listed with Dmoz, I gave up a long time ago trying to get anything valuable listed. Hell I even submitted websites about some authors that I enjoy reading and those couldn’t even get listed, including official websites.
‘The point is DMOZ is fairly valuable, and a secondary point is they seek to list original content, not anything copied. Maybe dotaffiliate deserves a listing of its own in addition to omegafx, but that isn’t on the topic here. There are plenty of sites that deserve listings that don’t have one.’
You nailed it. Dmoz is not a comprehensive resource, it therefore should not claim to be.
Furthermore, no one uses Dmoz anymore. Ask a consumer if they use Dmoz the answer is no. The only search engine that relies on Dmoz is netscape.
Google uses dmoz for it’s directory results, but this directory is not used very frequently. It’s probably used as much as people use the actual yahoo directory.
I will be honest. I used to use dmoz, especially when it came to locating local websites. This was several years ago. I can no longer use the website since most of the links are outdated or broken.
Antoine
