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@Simmo! 185873 wrote:
It’s better to have 50 casinos making $1,000 than 5 casinos making $10,000 if you’re here for the long term – you’ll weather the storms far easier
Definitely!!!!!
Negative carryover is usually a prescription for a short term relationship. If it doesn’t clear up within a month, I am generally outta there. I need the income generated by my players.
Ok, so for US facing we have Vegas Tech, Rival, RTG, Wizard and Top.
There is also Golden Arch Casino which uses AST software.
http://www.goldenarchpartners.com – Affiliate program
Carlo takes good care of his affiliates too!
Ok, so for US facing we have Vegas Tech, Rival, RTG, Wizard and Top.
Yes there it is in a nutshell, now we narrow down the who’s and don’t promote within these groups and since 2 are new and I think each only have 2 casinos to that software it is safe to say we can promote them now with Rival the only program I am concerned with is Slots Of Fortune something just seems off with them not sure what it is yet. RTG.. who wants to go there because that list will take awhile to make. For me it will be who ever is going to friggin pay me without me chasing them down for weeks!! My players need to be treated well and the no neg rollover is a bonus.
Vegas Tech I can say I only trust Casino Coins
What about skill sites are there any that convert good ?
Dear Mainstreet,
I used the word stealing in “”. WE all know, that for ex: When player wins 30K and affiliate generates only 5K / month rev, he will end witn -25K. At the same time this player will most likely NEVER withdraw the $$, plus all casinos have limitation of amout a player can withdraw (for ex: 2K / week). In the end casino has the $$ in their system, affiliate gets nothing and has to work hard to compensate -25K. I’ve seen lots of operators, who used to use neg carry over to blackmail affiliates. No traffic = Huge neg carryover.
I understand Your anger, but why did you post link to one of my hundred of site ? What does it has to do with neg carry over ?
I don’t know but I’d be thankful for knowing if it’s true E. For whatever reason.
Would have been nicer if he’d bothered to contact you and tell you back when he noticed it though. *Hint to all aff managers … I will be very grateful if you take time out to contact me to tell me something that saves my surfers.
and be rather torn if you waited 2 weeks to tell me …
I constantly worry about my surfers getting a virus somehow being my fault because I’m so backwards at much of this.
I’d just like to remind everyone that you can do okay with a handful of casinos. I have been for years. People come to your site because they trust your judgment and if you tell them these 5 casinos are the only ones I feel comfortable sending you … the vast majority of them will choose one of the five.you don’t have to have huge variety and I know for myself when dealing with the unknown product or service … sometimes there’s too much. I get flustered looking at all the selection and being one of those who tries to read the details (and I’m not a detail person … big picture all the way) and then compare prices with the features offered … and I get overwhelmed … almost clausterphobic (too late to spell check) so rather than just pick one I’ll just get to a point where I’m like screw it.
I do that justifying it by thinking i need to do more research but the point is that if there had only been 3 choices I most likely would have made a purchase that day instead of seeking to look further into research.
so I think there are plenty to offer with what we have all ready accumulated.
Next comes weeding out the producers and the non-producers and I need to figure that out fast lol.
I checked out the two casinos that use Wizard Software a couple of days ago and it seems that one is so new it doesn’t have an affiliate program – the other doesn’t play to the US.
Anyone with better info – please post.
ntaus
ntaus8 wrote:I checked out the two casinos that use Wizard Software a couple of days ago and it seems that one is so new it doesn’t have an affiliate program – the other doesn’t play to the US.Anyone with better info – please post.
The program for Gold Rock is called BestPay Affiliates, and the program for All Star Slots is called Affiliate Edge.
As far as I know, both casinos do accept U.S. players.
@eclipse 185921 wrote:
I understand Your anger, but why did you post link to one of my hundred of site ? What does it has to do with neg carry over ?
I only pointed this out as I noticed my OneCare detected a virus when I visted one of your sites. First time it hapened I thought nothing of it but when it happened again, I just thought I would point this out to you. Nothing to do with negative carryover, just a friendly note. :hattip:
Jason
Eclipse,
Im not picking on you but your examples are poor. Who in their right mind would never WD 25K or eventually play it back? If they play it and lose it all back, you the affilate would earn this money. If the player makes the WD then yes there is a negative on the account because there is no net win. If the money is in the system then its in the players account and they can either continue to play with it or make a WD. There is nothing blackmail about this.
Our commission rate of 40% is regarless of traffic levels, and your monthly volumes.
Our reputation and trust is solid. Its just we have this negative carry over as part of our program that most affilates would like to avoid. Its a risk of losing some monthly earnings but making the 40% is a good bet.
Id like to ask – how many affilates are having negative balances wiped out month after month? Does it occur that often or are you on the positive earnings side more often?
Bro, I’m not saying You do it. I just express my expirience with negative carry over. I’ve been in this industry for a long time and i share my personal thoughts. Plus IMHO most players play, cos they’re addicted/whatever and will in the end loose all their $$.
As i said most casino have a limit of for ex: 2K / week withdraw. Player withdraws 2K, next day loggs into the casino, sees 20K still in his account and he will most likely play or he will keep withdrawing 2K every week.
BTW: BCP, Cplanet both have no negative carryover. I think CWC and Coins as well, i’m not 100% sure.
Id like to ask – how many affilates are having negative balances wiped out month after month? Does it occur that often or are you on the positive earnings side more often?
The problem is you might get to a nice level of income and one day get a huge win …. I had this scenarion few times.
I think cwc has a negative carry over as well.
Not! I’ve been an affiliate with them for four years.
ntaus
Yeah, CWC carries over negative balances, unfortunately. Player value and retention is excellent, though.
So is mainstreet RTG and do they accept all USA states?
Engineer – thank you again for posting the Wizard info.
For everyone’s info – I tried to download All Star Slots and it crashed IE7!!!
Gold Rock seems to be OK – downloaded fine. They are playing to the US and have a toll-free International support # that’s the US.
Live Chat was responsive and helpful FYI.
ntaus
