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I hate this stuff “Can you outsmart the best search engines on the Internet” The only one will be doing this is through BH seo. Where the ehtics? greek39
I wasn’t finished it appears to me cpays would like to outsmart the search engines. Win cash for for blasting through google’s filters and going against their guidelines. Is cpays trying to recruit people like this? most disturbing!
I could achieve what cpays seeks in two days, but it violates SE policies so I would not. Unethical, immoral, deceptive, malicious, and just plain irresponsible on cpays part to encourage such a contest. greek39
Could we simply notify Google of the contest?
Forward them the email?I’m sure that they’d come up with a swift reaction to the contest – or else be looking carefully and squash each “trick” as it was demonstrated?
sigh.gifWorth a shot ?
Just received this email today from the good fellas at cpays. I echoe TheGooner’s response, I wonder what google would say? ” outsmart the best search engines on the Internet”. I quess we all better start looking for scrapes, spam and content theft.
I fail to see the honesty in this contest. I will have to post this at the google blog.
July 27th, 2006
Hello,
Can you outsmart the best search engines on the Internet? Are you looking for a real challenge where you can win lots of $$$?This is your chance! All you need to do is take a site and get it into the top position for the winning keywords which can be found here.
Put your SEO skills to the test and participate in the second CPayscom SEO Competition!
This is a fun SEO contest, with a total prize pool of $20,000 and an incredible 1st prize of $10,000!The new competition will start the 1st of August. For more information click here.
May the Google be with you!
CPays Team
Here are the Terms and ConditionsContest Terms and Conditions
a) At the end of the contest, on July 1 2006, the winners will be known:
– #1 position on google.com: $4,000
– #2 position on google.com: $500
– # 3 position on google.com: $200
– #4 – #50 position on google.com: $50b) At the two check-up points during the contests, additional prizes will be given:
– #1 position on google.com (February 1 2006): $500
– #1 position on google.com (April 1 2006): $500c) Extra prizes for #1 positions on MSN.com and Yahoo.com:
– #1 position on yahoo.com (1st of July 2006): $1,000
– #1 position on google.com (1st of July 2006): $1,0005. All the times mentioned in the contest refer to Greenwich Mean Time, GMT
6. Only organic search results are accepted and not sponsored listings.
7. All the prizes will be given after the contest ends. The specific dates will be known later.
8. Prizes of less than $500 will be sent to the winner by NETeller. Therefore, it is advisable to open a NETeller account when you participate in this contest.
9. The winner of the contest will be the person who manages to reach the #1 position on google.com with the three keywords that will be published at the start of the contest.
10. A contestant can win only one prize per check-up date (exceptions are blogs, Geocities, free hosting networks, etc.).
11. A contestant or domain CAN win more than 1 prize, as long as it is on different check-up dates or on different search engines. When a contestant wins more than 1 prize at the same check-up date, the contestant will receive the highest prize.
12. All the results of the CPayscom SEO contest as determined by CPays.com, are uncontestable, and cannot be discussed.
13. In order to receive prizes contestants have to be registered with their participating sites at CPays.com Affiliate Program. Participants have to fill in the registration form and use the comment box to type in the name of the URL of the participating site and mention on which position the site is on google.com.
14. In a visible position, the participating page in the tournament must contain the linking code as it appears on the contest page.
15. From the moment of signing up, the linking code must be entered at the contestant’s page. CPayscom has the right to disqualify contestants that enter the link after signing up. 16. All methods to promote the participating sites are allowed.
17. CPays.com and all other parties on behalf of CPays.com cannot be held responsible for content misprints and/or errors.
18. CPays.com and/or any party on its behalf don’t have any responsibilities towards the contestants concerning any kind of human and/or technical error. Therefore, the contestants give up any future claims towards CPays.com and/or any party on its behalf when they participate in this contest.
19. The contestant hereby declares that the contest and all parts of it rely on computers and therefore are not a 100% invulnerable to faults or errors.
20. The contestant hereby declares that he/she and/or any party on his/her behalf does not have any claim to anything that is directly or indirectly related to the tournament.
21. Despite any enclosed condition, it is hereby made absolutely clear that this contest is for the purpose of amusement only. There might be errors in the contest, but contestants cannot create any cause or claim directly or indirectly to the contest, the contest process, the management, the results or anything else related to the contest.
22. Hereby the contestants give up all claims regarding the modification or termination of the tournament.
23. CPays.com has the right to instantly stop and/or change the terms and conditions of the contest, without posting a reason. CPays.com has to post a message of such notification on the cpayscom.com website. The notification has to be sufficient.
24. Search results in google.com may vary in different datacenters and therefore only CPays.com will decide the final results of the contest. To ensure fair play and keep the contestants updated, a screenshot of the results will be frequently posted on this site.
25. All the CPays.com and records systems, and/or party on the behalf of CPays.com will act as the irrevocable evidence to the identities of the winners.
Regardless any of the terms mentioned above:
1. CPays.com is authorized to terminate the contest at any time and/or modify the start, end and check-up dates, prizes and contest rules as long as CPays.com posts a message on their website. The contestants agree that any messages about change or termination of the contest will be sufficient.
2. The contestants shall not have any claims concerning changes or termination of the contest.
3. CPays.com is not responsible for any damages, including physical damages of the contestants, related to the contest. Participating in the contest and all the stages is the sole responsibility of the contestants of the contest.
4. If in any case a contestant has been prevented from participating in the contest and/or win a prize by malfunction, damage or negligence, CPays.com cannot be held responsible.
5. CPays.com is authorized at its own discretion to add, deduct and modify all prizes or offer alternative prizes.
6. It is hereby made clear that when a contestant wins a prize, he or she might be televised and advertised in a range of media, including printed press, websites and television.
7. By participating in the contest, the winners agree to be photographed and have their name and photograph advertised in a range of media, mentioned in point 6.
8. CPays.com is authorized to not grant the prizes, when contest participated in any form of deceit, misbehavior, counterfeit, etc.
9. The contestant hereby states and agrees that the results of the winners are final, unquestionable and binding for there may be errors/mistakes in managing the contest. In any case, participation or non-participation cannot provide cause of any claims.
10. The terms and conditions on this page settle the rules for participating in the contestant and are officially contractually binding.
11. By entering the contest, the contestant hereby agrees to all of the participation rules mentioned above and thus put aside any claims towards CPays.com, related to the contest.
12. These contest terms and conditions will be advertised on the CPays.com website.
13. These terms and conditions completely cover the rights and duties of all parties of the contest and by participating in the contest, you fully accept all the mentioned terms and conditions
Wow talking about covering your tracks!! greek39
This could easily be done cleanly. Most of us are SEOs so we outsmart the search engines for a living.
Of course it can be done cleanly. But thats not in the rules.
In the past a guy won based on copying from my site and riding on my keywords, and then he got hired by cpays to run a site for them.
Not making me happy.
The contest would be totally fine if it had clauses excluding blackhat techniques.
I got this mail this morning. CPays emails get picked up and marked as being spam through my hosting companys system, which says a lot to me really.
Arn
I kind of assumed they would automatically disquality anyone who stole content, and stuff like that. Guess not.
I could only wish this contest would be done cleanly. I can already see the effects of this contest. Look at http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/more-theft.13317.html . When I look at this closer I found many blogs being scraped and redirected with apparently no aff tags all to cpays properties.
No aff tags? seems to me cpays will be making gold off this one. greek39
At the end of the contest, on July 1 2006
At the two check-up points during the contests (February 1 2006) (April 1 2006)
Do they mean 2007 or is this contest already over? :banger:
And after reviewing those contest terms and conditions you would have to be a complete idiot to take part in it.
that contest is already over and I havent heard a word – affiliates of all breeds came out for this one, ya know crooks, thiefs, stalkers – every form of dishonesty.
This is off the topic but deals with cpays. 2nd page of 97 million in google
goes directly to cpays casinos:Free Casino Online, Casino Bets Online, Casino Card Game, Online …Sometimes I can’t afford to put the cobble-stones! online casino reviews … online casino reviews His father remembered how she couldn’t have to get here! …
cool.juicypornhost.com/casino-28.html – 11k – Jul 27, 2006if you remove the /casino-28.html be careful as I did that and apparantly am on a database of some sort that has been spamming me ever since.
I can tell you that if I ran a casino aff program and some yahoo wanted to join whose domain was juicypornhost.com……..well they could just:dafingers themselves and the horse they rode in on
A new contest begins August 1, 2006 and ends February, 2007. We have been modest with cpays. greek39:devil:
It appears that dealing with people that employ methods that will hurt the entire industry is more profitable than dealing with honest people. And shortsightedness prevails.
All the bundling and carrying over of negatives doesn’t seem to help to match ill gotten gains.
I am starting to think at the very minimum they should be forced to make a choice – honest advertising methods or dishonest methods.
Perhaps if google sees that the industry does not support this they will relent and vigorously police gambling again.
Why didn’t you guys show up and say, yes, we’ll add the ethics guidelines to the contest? Why?
That speaks louder than any statement you could have made.
Hello everyone,
Firstly allow me to assure you that CPays does not approve of spam of any kind, as you can see in CPays homepage and in the terms and conditions. Any affiliate that chooses to use it will be dealt with accordingly.
Just to give you an example of our policy here’s a short quote from the terms and conditions:
3. Your Rights and Obligations
3.1 Linking to CPays
“…We will terminate this agreement immediately if there is any form of spamming or if you advertise our casino in any other unauthorized way…”
This said, following your posts we are looking into the SEO competition more closely and hope to add the necessary amendments to its terms and conditions as soon as possible. I agree with you that CPays is part of the online gambling industry and as such it should uphold its standards, and I assure you that we are laboring on a daily basis to upkeep the existing standards and to set new ones.
As soon as the terms and conditions of the competition are corrected I will post the relevant parts.
Thank you for you comments,
Ora
ora at cpays.com
http://www.cpays.com:capmiami:
Firstly allow me to assure you that CPays does not approve of spam of any kind, as you can see in CPays homepage and in the terms and conditions. Any affiliate that chooses to use it will be dealt with accordingly.
Tell that to one of your largest affiliates who is currently inundating google with hundreds of pages of crap.
Just a search on the big gambling related terms and you will find out who I am talking about.
