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September 9, 2006 at 7:05 pm #705321
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InactiveI am very impressed thats the way to do it! excellent work dhayman find out everything about this scumbag. Now we are going places! greek39
September 9, 2006 at 7:17 pm #705322Anonymous
Inactivedhayman I am onboard with this now, I will post some stuff on Tuesday. Finally someone who is willing to dig deep. Master these skills and you will be able to blast anything away.
I am very please with your results. greek39:bigsmile:
September 9, 2006 at 10:11 pm #705338Anonymous
InactiveJust to try and help out, I went ahead and submitted all of the last batch of URLs to Google. You guys are doing a bang up job. Rock on.
September 9, 2006 at 11:12 pm #705342Anonymous
InactiveThe accolades are great, but the bottom line is stopping this cheat. It will be tough to do so, without the cooperation of Google, and my bet is that this Moscow-based scoundrel is in bed with someone at Google. Let’s look at the facts:
1) Google has the capability of deleting anything they want from their
indices; yet, it takes time to do so, and always seems to run behind
the inclusion of new spam sites;2) Google has a massive team to come up with strategies to prevent this
kind of spamdexing; yet, it still continues to proliferate;3) To me, it seems obvious that there is someone “in-house” in Google who
is selling algorithms for a large fee, I’m sure to these criminals;Again, without co-operation of Google (and other Search Engines), all this work on CAP does is provide temporary bandaides.
September 9, 2006 at 11:34 pm #705344Anonymous
InactiveWell, if what you say is true, then that is a sad, sad thing. If it is true, then there is nothing anyone can do. No one can prove it, unless you were an insider yourself and you had the ability to spy on others.
Personally, I don’t think Google is in on it. I think they have bigger fish to fry. But a friend of a friend, or an ex-employee, they might have some info on the Algos, but I doubt it. I’ll bet they keep those pretty close to the hip.
Google is a huge company, and they probably have a zillion requests a week to deal with stuff. They move slowly. The cheats found a loophole, and Google hasn’t been able to close it yet. Who knows how long it will take? I think they will eventually fix the problem. Unfortunately, in the mean time, the hacks are winning. But if we stop fighting back, then they really win.
September 9, 2006 at 11:48 pm #705346Anonymous
InactiveCreative,
This is speculation on my part (certainly not fact), but everyone has a price, and insider info happens all the time. I used to work for a $ 5Billion+ corporation, and be on the inside, and it was amazing the things I saw and knew…..and I wasn’t the CEO.
This Moscow-based ring is powerful and has many assets at its disposal, as is indicated in the link on them in a prior post. I really believe there have been compromises made inside Google, to lend itself to these cheats. Payoffs are certainly within the realm of possibility, and probably very likely. Like I said, everyone has a price, and one person’s leak, could break the whole secretive algorithm.
September 10, 2006 at 2:19 am #705357Anonymous
InactiveYeah, I hear ya. Nothing much surprises me anymore in this world. Being the big business that this sector is, everyone wants their hand in the cookie jar, so to speak. I guess we can hope, and we can attempt to move forward.
I will say that I had noticed some scraping going on with some of my content on another site where I sell some things. (not gaming related) I reported a bunch of scraped URLs and it appears that most of them are gone. But that sector isn’t even in the same ballpark as online gaming is. Anything is possible. A close friend of mine used to tell me – if it is possible, then at some point it will happen, or it is likely already happening.
I used to dig Google and think that they were different, etc. They used to be, but now they’ve become what they were trying not to be. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. I wonder if some new engines will come to compete with Google? They need some fresh competition. It certainly sucks to be at their mercy. I was reading an article about Google in the latest Fortune magazine. They can pretty much make or break any small business. Whenever they release a new piece of experimental software, they cut out a lot of little guys. The song remains the same…
dhayman wrote:Creative,This is speculation on my part (certainly not fact), but everyone has a price, and insider info happens all the time. I used to work for a $ 5Billion+ corporation, and be on the inside, and it was amazing the things I saw and knew…..and I wasn’t the CEO.
This Moscow-based ring is powerful and has many assets at its disposal, as is indicated in the link on them in a prior post. I really believe there have been compromises made inside Google, to lend itself to these cheats. Payoffs are certainly within the realm of possibility, and probably very likely. Like I said, everyone has a price, and one person’s leak, could break the whole secretive algorithm.
September 10, 2006 at 6:57 am #705360Anonymous
InactiveCreative,
The new kid on the block is ASK.COM. Although they have a long way to go to be as large as Google, they have tremendous financial backing and are currently blitzing the media with self-promotion. It’s a pretty cool S.E. – check it out.
Still, it’s not yet mainstream…………
September 10, 2006 at 7:10 am #705361Anonymous
InactiveIsn’t that Askjeeves? I thought they have been around for quite a while. I’ll check it out. I have noticed a few of their commercials lately. Did they lose the jeeves and just become ask?
September 10, 2006 at 7:28 am #705362Anonymous
InactiveYup, that’s them. New branding, new investors. Some pretty cool features. Check ’em out !
September 10, 2006 at 7:31 am #705363Anonymous
InactiveWell, the bad news is that there is a re-emergence of some new domains, and some new pages in old domains. The good news (maybe), is that a lot of the old pages are gone. Does that mean that Google is doing some clean-up, or is Morohin just continuously cycling out old pages in favor of new ones, in some automated fashion ? I have no clue, and am betting on the latter at this point. In any event, I have reported all of these to Google, and ask all of you to do the same. This guy is the MAIN gambling spammer these days. Anyone want to head over to Moscow to take care of him ????
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KEYWORDS: poker sites
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xhttp://www.wide.msu.edu/Members/heatherrut/poker-2.html
xhttp://www.wide.msu.edu/Members/joedean/poker-11
xhttp://www.paramedic.org.uk/Members/chadjean/poker-17.html
xhttp://genres.syr.edu/Members/sherryjane/poker-6.htmlPage 2
xhttp://bioinfo.mbi.ucla.edu/Members/angielaura/poker.html
xhttp://seamap.env.duke.edu/Members/kevinausti/samueladam/
xhttp://jimpoker.extra.hu/
xhttp://www.tchezope.org/Members/ottootto/ivanangie/Page 3
xhttp://www.paramedic.org.uk/Members/dianakevin/poker-15.html
xhttp://www.linearcollider.ca/Members/raymonddaw/poker-19.html
xhttp://zackpeggy.carookee.com/
xhttp://snipsnap.nr.no/projectlink/space/tracyhayde/poker-13.html
xhttp://www.plone4artists.org/Members/victorcarl/poker-4.html==========================
KEYWORDS: best poker sites
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xhttp://genres.syr.edu/Members/sherryjane/poker-5.html
xhttp://www.wide.msu.edu/Members/heatherrut/poker-2.html
xhttp://seamap.env.duke.edu/Members/kevinausti/samueladam/
xhttp://www.plone4artists.org/Members/victorcarl/poker-4.html
xhttp://www.tchezope.org/Members/ottootto/ivanangie/
xhttp://www.linearcollider.ca/Members/raymonddaw/poker-19.htmlPage 2
xhttp://snipsnap.nr.no/projectlink/space/tracyhayde/poker-14.html
xhttp://neumann.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/plone/Members/jackjill/poker-18.htmlPage 3
xhttp://site.voila.fr/zackjulie/poker_11.html
xhttp://atomworks.org/Members/wendybrad/ivanethan/======================
KEYWORDS: casino sites
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xhttp://www.wide.msu.edu/Members/ericdiana/casino-17.html
xhttp://www.wide.msu.edu/Members/barbaravic/casino-7.html
xhttp://tec.earth.sinica.edu.tw/Members/pamelazack/casino-12.html
xhttp://tec.earth.sinica.edu.tw/Members/pamelazack/casino-11.html
xhttp://bioinfo.mbi.ucla.edu/Members/debbiekare/casino-5.html
xhttp://oooauthors.org/Members/adriannapa/casino-8.html
xhttp://www.tchezope.org/Members/emilyadria/kathykeith/
xhttp://lab2ipo.org/Members/oscarryan/casino-2.htmlPage 2
xhttp://oooauthors.org/Members/adriannapa/casino-9.html
http://www.paramedic.org.uk/Members/deanmay/casino-4.html
xhttp://freewebs.com/adamsamuel/casino-13.html
xhttp://bian.in/ellenvicto/casino-10.html
xhttp://bian.in/ellenvicto/casino-11.html
xhttp://www.linearcollider.ca/Members/jasonkevin/casino-9.htmlPage 3
xhttp://snipsnap.nr.no/projectlink/space/janepatty/slot-1.html
xhttp://snipsnap.nr.no/projectlink/space/deanolga/casino-13.html
xhttp://www.plone4artists.org/Members/ottosherry/casino-1.html
xhttp://neumann.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp/plone/Members/britneylen/casino-1.html
xhttp://atomworks.org/Members/robertida/marylena/
xhttp://site.voila.fr/tracyabby/casino_11.html
xhttp://site.voila.fr/sabrinaala/casino_7.htmlSeptember 10, 2006 at 9:06 am #705366Anonymous
InactiveI’ll submit them. But I’ll admit, I’m a little stumped as to how this guy is getting the high rankings. I understand that he’s switching content after a page already is ranked, but how is he getting the pages so highly ranked to begin with? And wouldn’t Google rank them lower for new keyword content if the page had all new content? I guess how isn’t important, so on with submitting them to Google.
September 10, 2006 at 9:39 am #705367Anonymous
InactiveI submitted them, hope it helps.
Thanks for all your hard work guys!
September 10, 2006 at 11:34 am #705369Anonymous
InactiveI mentioned this before, but he is running an automated blog/comment/form spammer. I log spam from him daily on one of my sites.
He has an automated program that seeks out forms with input boxes. He then checks them out manually and spams them with his addresses many times a day.
His main industry, though, is NOT gambling – It’s pharma.
That is what I see from his ‘posts’.
September 10, 2006 at 12:48 pm #705376Anonymous
InactiveThat is interesting, kwblue. If this is the case, why then, does each of his effected pages (see above) have “poker*” or “casino*” nomenclature suffixes ?? Do these blogger systems allow you to specify web page names for your blog post ??? Wouldn’t these blogger systems just come up with some randomized internal file name ?
This points back to PROFESSOR’S assertion that Morahin is using a CMS system to spam the Net. I have contacted PLONE.ORG, by the way, and reported this stuff. Unfortunately, I cannot find an Email address or tele # for them, so I was forced to “join” and subsequently fill out a “problem ticket”. I have done this twice, and suggest all to do the same. Unfortunately, this gives the appearance of use of more than one blogger system, as kwblue alludes to.
I think the fact that Morohin is coming up with these specific “poker*” and “casino*” suffixes in filenames, is assisting him with his high ranking, by the way.
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