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aleph wrote:I have to say that he is probably closer to the truth than most people would like to acknowledge or admit. To side one’s view on the other end of the spectrum of honesty is just as ridiculous people.
I 100% agree with your comments aleph to think otherwise would be rather ignorant. Sadly as pointed out we currently dont have much recourse. I do hear however that a lot is going on behind the scenes so maybe some day soon we can breath a sigh of relief.
*lurking*:whatsthat
axl wrote:I 100% agree with your comments aleph to think otherwise would be rather ignorant. Sadly as pointed out we currently dont have much recourse. I do hear however that a lot is going on behind the scenes so maybe some day soon we can breath a sigh of relief.We would all have a more prosperous situation for affiliates even the
super affiliates, if more of us would stop with the BS … I said it once and I
will say it again, you are lucky if you are getting 10% of what you are really
earning for most of these reputable casinos for the lifetime of the customers
that you brought in … if this was not the case you
would have exactly what bb1webs was referring to and that is
TRUE transparency on the stats that really matter … you will NEVER
get that because then you would really see what this business is
all about.
aleph wrote:… if this was not the case youwould have exactly what bb1webs was referring to and that is
TRUE transparency on the stats that really matter … you will NEVER
get that because then you would really see what this business is
all about.
Him and I have discussed this at length.
Ask yourself this.
Why have we never seen an affiliate program audited by PWC or some other reputable firm??
Quote:Why have we never seen an affiliate program audited by PWC or some other reputable firm??That is an excellent and so funny remark! I would laugh to see “percentage” payouts of each affiliate program, representing what they have paid compared to what they should have paid! :rollover:
Then we would choose the ones that have the higher percentage payouts! :terms:
Could this become a reality???? :1Dopey:
Laugh away! :happydanc
http://goldentigercasino.com/security/pwc.asp?pwcReport=./pwc/2005/01.gif
Actually PWC is the independant auditor. This is just one example of our audits… You can find each for Casino Rewards by clicking the image at the bottom of the page.
Hope this answers your questions!
Cheers
Renee
We know the casinos are audited, we are talking about the affiliate tracking being audited. It is not.
If it were… I think we would all see our commissions go up. Then we would see the affiliate commission percentages go down in return
End result… We would know that we are get paid correctly. However, it wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference monetarily.
Renee wrote:Laugh away! :happydanchttp://goldentigercasino.com/security/pwc.asp?pwcReport=./pwc/2005/01.gif
I don’t doubt your RNGs.
With all due respect, I see no mention of an affiliate program audit.
Perhaps you could be less smug.
In case the question wasn’t clear… Why don’t *you* have an independent program audit your affiliate program, methods, and workings?
kwblue wrote:If it were… I think we would all see our commissions go up. Then we would see the affiliate commission percentages go down in return
End result… We would know that we are get paid correctly. However, it wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference monetarily.
I think it would make a difference. I like to be paid what I’m due. Nothing more, nothing less.
You might be right about the general economics of the situation. It would make a difference monetarily to different people…
How long have you been doing this? Are you underpaid? Overpaid? Do you know the difference? Would you like to be paid fairly?
What would make you against such audits, besides a weak economic argument regarding how macro markets typically function. We’re not all one affiliate here. We’re individuals.
Renee your stats are always off hits and download numbers never match up and it’s blamed on bots. Quite a few of us run server side trackers that filter out bots and when we see large discrepancies we know the bot explanation doesn’t wash. Not only that I have heard that affiliates who have tested you in the past discovered that players activities were not being recorded correctly if at all.
I am not here to flame you but with all due respect if Casino Rewards affiliate program were to be audited the results would not be too pretty.
I sure hope alephs comments about only getting 10% of what we are actually due is way off. I would really hate to think I or any of us for that matter are getting screwed that badly. Not that I doubt it I just hate to think about that!
I think there are couple Scandleous Casinos out there but
I don’t think all are like that. I know that there are couple
that do this but there are many Casinos that carries their
integrity.:shots:
This has nothing to see with the thread,
but have you ever asked yourself why casinos are all audited by pwc South Africa ?Oneguy2nv….
I am NOT at all against having the affiliate programs audited. In fact, I am quite for it. I believe that I could be shorted and think that I have been in the past..
What I was trying to get across was was this:
If we make 35% on our commissions… and it was found out (through auditing) that we were being skimmed on average 20% of casino earnings… THEN, the affiliate programs would end up reporting accurately (otherwise they would look like idiots after an audit) —
HOWEVER… To make the $$ they made by skimming, they would have to knock down our % to 15% instead of 35%.End result could very well be the same.
You are right, though… I have NOT been doing this long. I HAVE, however, made a good sum of $$ in the short time (about 9 months or so) that I have been doing this (casino affiliate, anyway). But just because I am relatively new doesn’t mean my perspective is any less valuable.
kw
kwblue wrote:If we make 35% on our commissions… and it was found out (through auditing) that we were being skimmed on average 20% of casino earnings… THEN, the affiliate programs would end up reporting accurately (otherwise they would look like idiots after an audit) —
HOWEVER… To make the $$ they made by skimming, they would have to knock down our % to 15% instead of 35%.End result could very well be the same.
kw
I agree with this. We would likely see adjustments if tracking was 100% accurate – which it never is from what I understand with my limited knowledge of math.
I don’t think that all the programs are shaving, and I don’t think the ones who are do it all the time. But it must be awfully tempting to smooth over a bad month…
I think we would also find that the softwares themselves are having tracking problems. Much of this may not be intentional by the programs at all.
Microgaming needs to get off it’s duff and spend a little on creating an accurate, unified tracking program. Leaving it up to the programs is ridiculous. They should be in the business of selling, not of programming. If they didn’t have to provide the tracking themselves, they would be a lot more profitable and that would filter down to us.
Microgaming, shame on you on this issue! :nono:
100% agreed on that.
Microgaming (and any other casino software) could gain a TON of acceptance and advertising from affiliates if we KNEW that the tracking was coming directly from them… accurately.
Who here would promote a casino software MORE if you knew that the tracking was always 100% accurate? I know I would.
