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Ok so now the company want his details which would entail breaking the confidentiality contract – should I give them to them? They are again pressing hard on the ‘did you buy the domain or the company’ question which I have answered several times and they are living on Mars if they think they will get anything out of me. I was just wondering about the legal and ethical implications of breaking the confidentiality contract.
owldeath2 wrote:Ok so now the company want his details which would entail breaking the confidentiality contract – should I give them to them? They are again pressing hard on the ‘did you buy the domain or the company’ question which I have answered several times and they are living on Mars if they think they will get anything out of me. I was just wondering about the legal and ethical implications of breaking the confidentiality contract.Well, I would think they’d have that info if they purchased advertising from him. :confused:
They don’t, and he’s moved. And it was only a Neteller transaction.
What a tosser. :shooter:
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LOL!
I didn’t even bother reading through 4 pages of this crap.
First of all I’m not an affiliate anymore so that is why I could not be reached through here. The only contact I had with owldeath2 who bought my sites was through here and not through email.
Second… PokerAffiliate accidently made a double payment to me back in late summer and I was just alerted to it by audioking the other day again as I don’t visit this site anymore and hence haven’t checked my PM’s. All my payments went to a bookkeeper I used. We had multiple payments and large amounts of money coming in at all times of the month and since he was new and not well educated at the time of where all the payments were coming from he never noticed that they paid me once to neteller and then once to my bank account. He just knew we had a payment from PokerRoom.
Third… Now that I have been alerted to it the other day I have already taken action to remedy the mistake with PokerAffiliate. Audioking can verify this.
Fourth… it’s bullshit that pokeraffiliate.com couldn’t contact me. Carly knows me personally and anyone could have contacted me by phone or if any letter was sent to my old address it would easily be forwarded on to me via postal service.
It’s amazing to me how out of control a situation can get via lack of information. To all of a sudden log on tonight only because someone told me to check this thread out and then see 4 pages of this crap when PokerAffiliate or owldeath2 could have easily called me. (Both have my phone number) and easily solved the situation is amazing to me.
Nonetheless the situation is taken care of and the nonsense can stop.
God I’m glad I’m out of this industry!
Bryan
By the way to clarify this comment…
First of all I’m not an affiliate anymore so that is why I could not be reached through here. The only contact I had with owldeath2 who bought my sites was through here and not through email
Owldeath2 as the new owner controlled the email account that I once had. I had no access to infoATbroadbandpoker.com anymore. Plus I updated my contact info in my account at pokeraffiliate right after I sold the site, so this bullshit of not being able to contact me through pokeraffiliate is ridiculous.
Plus, as far as getting pm email alerts… CAP does not allow you to use free email accounts as your email address, so since I sold all my sites to Owldeath2 I had no choice, but to leave infoATbroadbandpoker.com as my email address on file here. And as I said before I had no access anymore to that account as I had sold it all to Owldeath2.
Bryan
It’s a common practice that if you are buying a business, you should worry about these type of things and clear them up before any deals are struck. I have always been told that if you are simply buying a business’ assets then you shouldn’t have to worry. However, with websites it seems different. A website is an asset, but it’s not like a piece of equipment that gets used up and depreciated. It will be interesting to see how this thread progresses.
Oh and one more thing as I check all my PM’s…
Owldeath2 says he feels like now he’s out $10K and that somehow I owe him $5k now which makes no sense.
Owldeath contacts me in October asking about what he needs to continue the pokeraffiliate deal? I contact him back with the contact information and he says thanks and contacts me back about a week later explaining that he thinks he will probably be able to negotiate a better deal. I think OK. Great. God Bless you. End of story! Now he thinks I owe him the original deal plus money he never paid to pokeraffiliate. That’s exceptionally bad math!
That’s it then! I don’t hear from him for a couple weeks and since I’m not in the industry and didn’t spend much time here when I was I stop coming to this forum and again was alerted tonight to this thread, but again had already been told of the situation with PokerAffiliate the other day by adioking as he had emailed a question to owldeath2.
I immediately then proceeded to take care of it.
The questioning of my integrity or business practice is really disappointing. I have always conducted myself in the most professional manner and again could have easily been contacted by either party after the sale.
All this cause I didn’t check an old forum for a couple months.
Bryan
Wow, it does sound like just a few phone calls could have settled this whole thing. I’m glad it’s looking like it’s getting there.
A quick question—if an overpayment gets made can’t the over payer just take the money back out like banks generally do? Perhaps I’m still a tad to new and nieve, but seems to me they could just yank it back from the account they put it into unless the account was closed.
Anyway, sorry the drama got so far. In buying a site, I suppose one would have to make it clear that the site only was being purchased and not the liabilities as well, on the other hand if the site is bought or sold as a “business” then it’s very likely the assests and liabilities are both assumed to be part of that deal.
Anyway, I hope the stress level peters out soon and everone can sleep easier. I know if I had someone breathing down my neck for 5K & hadn’t seen comming my wife would kick me out of bed for tossing and turning so much because I’d be so stressed and not sleeping.
Hope it’s OK
Best, to you Ben
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No Casinos of Fun Yet….But there comming!
I need a mentor, & I’ll promise to make it worth your whileAlthough Owldeath2 was contacted via email regarding this double payment… the contract was never between pokeraffiliate.com and any company I owned. It was between me (my original affiliate account) and pokeraffiliate.com. The only reason they contacted him in the first place was because the person handling the situation at the parent company had that as my last email address cause it was on the contract, but as I stated earlier they could have easily just looked in my affiliate account and seen that my contact info had been updated immediately after the sale of the site.
In no way were the new owners legally responsible for this oversight and that’s why I was so surprised at the amount of response this thread got. I do however admit it does make for an interesting discussion on the legalities of taking over someone elses website.
Again, just a lack of communication that turned into an unfortunate incident and again that has already been dealt with.
Bryan
I couldn’t find your phone number and I had sent private messages to you which were no longer being responded to. I know you have updated your email address with CAP because [email protected] no longer gets notifications of private messages so it’s clear that that was changed. You never responded so I felt there was little choice but to go public.
If you remember the price we agreed on was $xx,xxx* – with a ‘guaranteed’ $5000 media buy which I foolishly believed and so handed over $xx,xxx.
On top of this I have to put up with threatening emails about legal action against me. So the $5000 has turned into a troubling debt rather than this ‘guaranteed’ media buy. It was very deceptive. But this should make you feel better – I have written it off and put it down to experience rather than pursuing it. Now I only have to worry about the legal threats I am getting.
* As per Bryan’s request I have edited out the amounts involved.
The only thing left I have to say is “deceptive” is hardly the right word when as soon as adioking informed me of this I immediately took action within days and already took care of it with PokerAffiliate and also offered to work with you now to get the deal in place with pokeraffiliate.
Also here is a direct quote dated today from PokerAffiliate’s parent company…
After I read your whole mail I understand your point of view about all this.
This whole situation Is due to a bunch of bad events in the past.I am certain that we can put all things behind us.
I apologize to Owldeath2 for him having to receive any emails from them and again would have acted sooner if I had known about it sooner.
I have been a long-time respected member of PAW and have always acted with the utmost professionalism and integrity and again it’s unfortunate that simply the lack of communication was the cause of all this.
It just seems there were so many ways to get a hold of me like phone as I mentioned before, Carly from PokerAffiliate, anyone at PAW.
I wish owldeath2 success in the future and hope we can now end this.
Bryan
“simply the lack of communication was the cause of all this.”
Er, no mate – we know what the cause was. That you were difficult to get hold of is a side-issue.
I can understand your position owldeath2 especially after you paid $xx,xxx
thinking you had $5000 coming back to you in a short amount of time.
I bought a website for $xxxx and the only reason I paid this price was because the previous owner showed me neteller payments from one group for $xxxx and stated that NEW MONEY for the site was $600+ per month. I figured just on one group i would get my money back in less than a year.The website has made $7.50 in 7 weeks from the group that was making $xxxx SO the casino and i think now that the previous owner had people depositing to hike the revenue to make the website look like it was really worth $xxxx.
This is fraud anyway you slice it and i think owldeath2 should get some sort of refund on what he paid as I am sure that $5000 payment was a factor in him agreeing to pay the price he paid as the payment i was expecting was the reason I paid the price I paid.
