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January 21, 2008 at 9:03 am #583082AnonymousInactive
It has been brought to my attention that at Grand Prive, if a player signs up at one casino in the group, it is counted as sign up everywhere.
Consequently, if you send a player to a casino there, and he has ever signed up at any of the other ones, through you or anyone else, you will not be paid.
I understand and like the business model where players are always credited to the originally referring affiliate, but this is entirely different.
Even if you were the original referrer, you will not be paid.
This is really too bad, I will have to remove Grand Prive, there is no point sending any players to any of the casinos there. Chances are one will never get paid.
They have quite a few casinos, I think removal will distribute visitors to the remaining Microgaming groups and both they and we will experience better earnings.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention!
January 21, 2008 at 2:01 pm #759076AnonymousInactiveEven if you were the original referrer, you will not be paid.
Okay, it must be to early for me and i’m reading this all wrong. What is going on? How can it be that we will not get paid for players that we referred?
January 21, 2008 at 2:11 pm #759077AnonymousInactiveBecause once a customer opens an account at one casino in the group, they are now “owned” by that referrer for All Casinos in their Group.
So if i’m signed up at casino A, you can refer me to 5 more casinos there, that i can open an account at, but the first affiliate gets the commissions.
January 21, 2008 at 2:24 pm #759080AnonymousInactivei guess you mean the casino group get the commission
January 21, 2008 at 2:24 pm #759081AnonymousInactiveThanks AmCan,
I understand now.
January 21, 2008 at 3:39 pm #759089AnonymousInactive@AmCan 151323 wrote:
Because once a customer opens an account at one casino in the group, they are now “owned” by that referrer for All Casinos in their Group.
So if i’m signed up at casino A, you can refer me to 5 more casinos there, that i can open an account at, but the first affiliate gets the commissions.
No, actually that is not correct either.
The first referrer will NOT get paid. That would be accpetable if it were so.
Lets say I send aunt Mary to casino X and she signs up.
A year later, amcan sends aunt Mary to casino Y.
Since aunt Mary is a member at casino X, she is considered an old player. Neither Amcan nor me get credit for sending an old player. Grand prive will not pay for any player who already signed up at one casino. The player is considered the property of Grand Prive. I receive payment for what aunt Mary plays at casino X, and if she goes on to play at Y and Z, I do not get credit nor does any other affiliate.
This is the way it was explained to me.
You can only get paid for a new player to the group, not for a new player to an individual casino.
January 21, 2008 at 3:48 pm #759091AnonymousInactiveThat is what I thought you were saying, but it’s to crazy to be true.
I would hate to have to remove Grand Prive from my sites for a reason like this after bringing them thousands of players to date.
January 21, 2008 at 4:00 pm #759092AnonymousInactiveThey are being removed from our sites now and being replaced with other Micros, and I will not post the complete email from Miles to me but I will give a few bits to show everyone what this group is all about and let me tell you it is not about being affiliate friendly!!! This with the site change over and loss of stats, the need to change all our links at one point, site being upgraded etc no wonder we cannot make money here seems to me they come up with ways every 3 months or so to give us the shaft. I am done and believe me I like Irwin and a few others there but I now understand that they are just the ones carrying out the evil deeds and the much higher powers are to blame here. Another thing I am tired of is the constant blame being put on Microgaming. Come on this is the fault of Brand Box Media, you the marketing company for these group of casinos!
if you understood Single sign on then you’d realize that we are not stealing from affiliate sin any way.
This was a management decision and if you feel that strong by all means bring it up at the conference
you may also approach MGS and ask them how many other casinos Plan to go this route you’ll be shocked to find out
That Most if them will.
If any other Microgaming groups plan to go this route I really really hope you think twice before doing so! I also hope that other affiliates get in on this debate here because if the other groups do this we as affiliates are going to be screwed big time!
I sent the same offer to 300 People your the only one who has an issue with New players everyone else has obliged
Well I am amazed at the amount of money GP is making off 300 affiliates by this latest method of marketing they have decided to use. Can you imagine the players they are collecting from all their brands from us bringing them just 1 player!
January 21, 2008 at 4:10 pm #759094AnonymousInactiveAh geez!
I will have to make a post with micro casinos in the title so they do read it.
January 21, 2008 at 4:13 pm #759095AnonymousInactiveThank you Dom and bonustreak for bringing this to my attention.
I sent the same offer to 300 People your the only one who has an issue with New players everyone else has obliged
I have NO idea what this is about as I’ve not seen anything like this from Grand Prive. How dissappointing and frustrating! I hope I can get more answers at the conference.
Hey bonustreak, I’d like to met with you while in London if you have some time. I’ll be there on Thursday so i’ll email you to see if we can chat.
January 21, 2008 at 4:30 pm #759096AnonymousInactiveSee my opinion on this here: http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.com/bb/alert-microgaming-casinos.24767.html?
That situation explains why revenues with Grand Prive have gone downhill so much. :flush:
January 21, 2008 at 6:53 pm #759125vladcizsolMemberThis is the first I heard of this. Was this a change that happened when they switched to the new software? Has Grand Prive acknoledged this to be the case and their policy or is it possibly a bug?
Where did you hear this?January 21, 2008 at 6:59 pm #759128AnonymousInactiveComes from aff manager Miles.
January 21, 2008 at 7:07 pm #759131AnonymousInactiveI thought the news about GP employing this practice has been in the wild for a couple of months now? :sarcasm:
Anyway, I’m glad that the people who promote them will now realise that they are sending their traffic down the toilet.January 21, 2008 at 7:41 pm #759132vladcizsolMemberThis is absurd. What did Miles say was the rationale for such a rediculous policy? Is this outlind in Terms and Conditions?
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