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Another thing I just tought about – Google is considering in their algo how many other websites contain “the term = yoururl.com”, so you could still keep on spamming those “tagged” blogs and stil benefit, although not as much… What were they thinking by all this noise they made…
antoine wrote:How would old links have the tag? I’m just confused about this. Joe downloads software and installs a blog on his website. Joe uses the blog for 6 months and never uses it again. The blog is now a spam friendly website.Joe is not about to go visit a website he hasn’t touched in 2 years to upgrade the software.
But obviously that isn’t the point. Joe wasn’t going to tag new tags either. All that is going on is if a blog wants to tag links, it will, old and new. If a blogger doesn’t, old and ongoing spam will continue to be untagged.
But maybe people aren’t understanding that this isn’t up to an individual Joe Blogger. It is being implemented by blogger.com, etc. The big, mega, hosting blogs for all the blogs housed on their space.
In other words, it only takes about ten people to effect a huge percentage of blogs out there.
Undoubtedly a few of the largest blog hosts will hopefully retro-tag all links, like Classics said.
But even if that’s 80%, there’s still 20% out there. Lotta blogs.
Then when you add in the rest of the webmasters who don’t run blogs, but see this as a way to preserve their own PR… bang!
Take “blogs” out of the equation – this solution may have been designed for the blogs, but it affects the ENTIRE net and EVERY website!
The really strange thing is that, like Classics said, I probably stand to gain the most – but that discounts all of the cons out there who will use this “tool” to continue to maintain their top positions on the SERPs.
On top of that, this is likely to drive more webmasters underground as they seek a way to overcome such a biased system.
What they SHOULD have done is written code to recognize the most popular blogs – and discount the links INTERNALLY… duh!
Spearmaster wrote:Then when you add in the rest of the webmasters who don’t run blogs, but see this as a way to preserve their own PR… bang!Webmasters who want to do that have already been doing it for a long time – they don’t need a new “obvious” way to do it.
Quote:What they SHOULD have done is written code to recognize the most popular blogs – and discount the links INTERNALLY… duh!What about the legit blogs – should they have their legit links trashed?
Good spammers adapt very well to a changing environment – if they get cut off here they go there, etc. you’re not going to stop them with this uncomplicated fix. However being that it is an elementary patch its very easy for the search engines to implement and announce that they are doing something, when if fact they are not doing much at all.
With that said I am off to add this text into all my affiliate links on at least one site – then after the next pr update I will see if I preserved anything worth while.
Webmasters who want to do that have already been doing it for a long time – they don’t need a new “obvious” way to do it.
Yeah, there is some easy css that will accomplish this same thing – I use it already on affiliate links. Most dirty spammers would probably already know this.
It is already possible to negate the passing on of juice. Not sure what is the harm in this agreement and anouncement by these 3 se’s..
Would like to hear more.
>>>The big, mega, hosting blogs
Blog spammers rarely use those.
This won’t change anything.
It’s changed everything, but not all this instant. The vast majority will adopt the tag basically right away. There will be no reason for new blogs to not follow suit in the future, unless the blog exists merely to spam links.
It’s a concrete, no-brainer positive with zero downside, even if it doesn’t fix every problem. If even one blog comment spam was ignored, that would be a positive.
“Then when you add in the rest of the webmasters who don’t run blogs, but see this as a way to preserve their own PR… bang!”
Honestly I can’t imagine how you can see this as a negative. It is a tremendous thing that will lead to a great diminishment of the useless, link vomit on the internet… and I really like this… it will mean less of those idiotic automated exchange links email spams I get every damn day.
Look at it this way – if it drives webmasters “underground”, it’s bad.
Don’t get me wrong. I would love to see blog spam disappear. But I repeat – this tag will be abused to death.
We cannot assume that all – or even most – webmasters:
1. Are still updating their sites
2. Are ethical
3. Understand that PR means almost nothing
4. Understand that most of them should NOT need this tagThe funniest thing is that the people at the engines are not stupid people. There is something going on here that they have not told us, because after thinking about it a bit, there is zero chance they would have missed the problems I described.
I’m going to shut up for a while about this. I am certain there is something very screwy going on here, and that this tag will either be discontinued or be ignored before long.
I’m thinking you can’t be understanding what is involved here because you really didn’t describe any problems.
What abuse? There isn’t a way to abuse this. All the tag does is make the link essentially the same as most javascript links are now. Big deal. There’s no abuse in that.
At the same time, what it accomplishes is to make it harder for non-owners of a webspace to get a credit for creating their own links on someone else’s site. The fact that it doesn’t fix the problem on abandoned blogs is basically irrelevant. It does what it does. It’s just one thing with no downside. Of course some folks will use it just like they use javascript links now, but aside from being able to do something they could do before but now do it with cleaner code, how is that an issue?
If it did lead to the destruction of automated link exchanges because nobody trusted anybody else anymore, that would be worth the Nobel Peace Prize.
Quote:If it did lead to the destruction of automated link exchanges because nobody trusted anybody else anymore, that would be worth the Nobel Peace Prize.LMFAO… good one…
I recognize the upside of this tag. But I believe there are still many issues that could arise as this tag is introduced – and as far as the top positions in the SERPs, it’s not gonna make a whole lot of difference in my opinion.
But I’m willing to be wrong – so I’ll just wait and see (and pray that you are VERY RIGHT!).
If it did lead to the destruction of automated link exchanges because nobody trusted anybody else anymore, that would be worth the Nobel Peace Prize.
if anyone doesn’t agree with this “if” – :dafingers
lmao
