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cowboy;201036 wrote:Faced with the choice:
1) Guy with great SEO skills, poor people skills
OR
2) Guy with great SEO skills, good people skills
Then #2 is the one I prefer to learn from and interact with.
So, given you’ve had zero interaction with Jason, what are you saying here?
Bob, I would humbly suggest that the problem is not in the appointment of Jason (who is perhaps not such a global rockstar after all) but rather the manner and theme of the posts.
Your initial post was trite and in no way apologetic or acknowledging the obvious flop that CAP Sprink break in Cancun has been. You may not think so – but as you were not there – you’d do better to pay attention to the views of the paying punters that did attend and feel let down.
Yes you’ve only been in the job 26 days – no-one was shooting at you – but don’t try to pretend that CAP spring break was being sold as a casual NOTWORK event. It was not. We’ve already seen apologies from Warren Jolly saying that CAP stuffed up.
As for the subsequent posts, they seem bombastic, obnoxious, and so full of yourself and your “friends”, that it’s managing to rub forum members up the wrong way, despite the fact that essentially the additional moderators are positive news.
It was/is coming over as “BIG me – little you”. Was that what you REALLY wanted to do – to belittle existing members and contributors?
As a marketter you’ll know that different styles work best with different mediums, and I suspect that if you’d said this sort of stuff in a face to face conversation then the message would have been modified by your body language and expressions and people would have seen that you were not trying to be such a pain – but to accentuate positive moves.
But as a written piece in a community forum you come over as the aggressive, hard sell, full of bullsh!t, marketting dickhead that we usually hang up on when they cold-call us on the phone to sell.
Modify the tone Bob – this is not a newsletter. This is an interactive forum that contains a wide variety of readers – some of whom may even be older and wiser than yourself.
:hattip:I’m prepared to give you a break as we learn to get used to you and your style – but are you prepared to believe that some of us here might also know a trick or two as well?
:tongue:@BobRains 201040 wrote:
So, given you’ve had zero interaction with Jason, what are you saying here?
I’m assuming you’ve picked one with good people skills!
:tongue: Every SEO guy who ever came on board here made waves.
:3eyes:
I can’t judge,
I know Bob quite well….big mouth…big body…says he’s awesome…still like him
I met Jason also…. i think i like him… working for 888 is it? or pary maybe…
i don’t know Gary, except from his posts here…from a SEO viewpoint i think i would vote for Jason
2cents
no edit possible???
The best and most useful debate would, of course, come about if the board had more than one resident SEO expert.
In an ideal world, there would be three or four resident SEO experts, all contributing to the debate and discussion over issues relating on how to get high up in the search results.
Anyone that went to the CAP Euro SEO panel will have seen this in action. There was some great debate and some real disagreement on what was right or wrong in SEO. It was simply not possible for one individual expert to dominate, or pretend to have the absolute knowledge, when in fact what they were saying was controversial or potentially untrue. The combination of the experts’ knowledge and experience created superb, useful, debate.
So why not get a few SEOs in to moderate and contribute to the discussion?
Is it possible?
Or, are their egos so huge that they won’t join and debate with each other on a board?
Or perhaps CAP are having to pay them and it would be too costly?
Just a thought…
Its a great idea. The more the merrier.
Don’t know if it’s feasible though.
can someone explained what happened for those who haven’t followed?
Livegirl, it’s all long and convoluted. That’s why no one tried to explain…
no edit possible???
Elgoog, I don’t know what’s up with that. you are not the first one this week who suddenly had no edit, and admin has gone home for the weekend. I left them a note…
Dendrite;201050 wrote:The best and most useful debate would, of course, come about if the board had more than one resident SEO expert.In an ideal world, there would be three or four resident SEO experts, all contributing to the debate and discussion over issues relating on how to get high up in the search results.
Agree 100%
Working on this, and will get at leas 3 SEO mods in place by the end of April, if not 5!
TheGooner;201041 wrote:It was/is coming over as “BIG me – little you”. Was that what you REALLY wanted to do – to belittle existing members and contributors?But as a written piece in a community forum you come over as the aggressive, hard sell, full of bullsh!t, marketting dickhead that we usually hang up on when they cold-call us on the phone to sell.
Modify the tone Bob – this is not a newsletter. This is an interactive forum that contains a wide variety of readers – some of whom may even be older and wiser than yourself.
:hattip:I’m prepared to give you a break as we learn to get used to you and your style – but are you prepared to believe that some of us here might also know a trick or two as well?
:tongue:Understood. I’ve never been a big forum user, so I will keep the tone in mind in future posts.
Thanks for the tip, I’m always open to constructive criticism.
Oh, and BTW, I sometimes come off like an aggressive, hard sell, full of bullsh!t, marketing dickhead in person also, but I’m working on it.
Sorry about that. I think I’m just so sick of watching people take pot shots at CAP, and wanted to finally go on the defensive. Not that most of the pot shots are not deserved, in many cases they are.
Will most likely continue to defend CAP, and more importantly fix it, but will be aware of the tone and the community, and show it the respect it deserves.
Good man – we will get used to your style too!
:cappy:@BobRains 201059 wrote:
Will most likely continue to defend CAP, and more importantly fix it, but will be aware of the tone and the community, and show it the respect it deserves.
I’ll be making sure you respect the tone and the community! :hattip:
:whipper”
Be good to have someone that has the decency to not treat great affiliate managers like trash IMO. Cheers:hattip:
I know this thread isn’t really about Jason but he is bloody amazing – When we eventually got him on the SEO panels at CAP it was a real kue – The guy is a legend in the SEO inner circles and if you get 5 mins with him its worth a fortune.
Elgoog – He was heading up SEO for Party for a while but is independent again (I believe)
