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When they started out early last spring they were good producers for me but since around June they have been consistently very bad for most webmasters I know myself included. The popular knick name is Fallen Star Network.
casinoaffiliateprograms.com has just become my default homepage.
The Professor rules !
aleph:D
The same happened to us, obviously on a much smaller scale
Until last month, we had a pretty big player come back from many months ago. And the poker is getting us new players off and on.
GSN was one of my biggest earners when I first started, not anymore.Ellen I guess you like poker
Been playing poker most of my life. And now that the online poker rooms are getting hot, loving it even more. The great thing about being an affiliate for a poker room is you can’t go negative (unless the room takes off the signup bonus, which some don’t) so it’s a definite earner if you get the players in. The goal is to get the die hard players in, like me :bigsmile: , then you make a constant earn, it’s very reliable unlike casino gambling. Actually playing poker is reliable as well, if you know how to play correctly, you are a winner in the long run, always! Again, not like the casino games.
Yes surely a fallen star … course I was still making several dimes with them when I started taking them off my sites this month. Their slow support and late payments werent acceptable.
I think poker rooms are also very hot right now … As long as the WPT and WSOP continue to air on TV every night of the week I think this “newer” sensation will continue to grow.
Hi All,
I think it’s only fair that I post here to defend our program, golden[star]network.
It’s really an unpleasant experience to be informed by an affiliate that bad things are being said, and then you read stuff like ‘Fallen Star Network’ …
I respect that not all affiliates have had all good experiences with our program, but I think it’s also a known fact among affiliates and affiliate managers alike, that not ALL casinos convert well for ALL affiliates.
Yes, I wish it could be different, but in reality it’s not. To be fair, I think new affiliates should try / test the program for themselves and make their own judgments.
Also, I ask those with problems / issues, to address it with me – so that we can see what we can do about it.
Kind regards,
MarloHello Marlo and Welcome aboard.
Sorry things werent so rosy, but the purpose of a webmaster message board is to share experiences good and bad. Not sugar coat results for fear of ruffling feathers.I wish you the best of luck and hope you do turn things around. When you guys first started your conversions and revenue production were indeed good, unfortunatetly In My Oppinion they are not currently competetive with other Microgaming programs on the market.
The long payment delays this summer were also a sore spot for many affiliates and this should be corrected as well if you want to see renewed growth.
Hi Marlo,
I definitely agree with you that some affiliate programs work awesome for some where they don’t work well for others. Just so you know, I haven’t given up on you! You are one of the very select few that stays in touch with your affiliates and answers emails very promptly. GSN is also one of the very few Microgamings we’ve done anything with.
By the way Phil, your poker room affiliate manager is awesome as well!
Don’t get discouraged by reading things like this.Welcome Marlo,
I have never really promoted your program. Maybe once I get more into promoting in Europe, which is on the agenda.
Greetings Marlo and welcome …
Speaking for myself, my comments were based mostly on the handful of slow payments I received this past summer. However, after the slight improvement in October I decided to give the GSN another opportunity to prove to me that they are worth keeping around.
“I think it’s also a known fact among affiliates and affiliate managers alike, that not ALL casinos convert well for ALL affiliates.”
Personally and with all due respect I don’t fully agree with this statement. If I send 100 hits to casino A and 100 hits to casino B and casino A has a 40% signup rate and casino B only has a 4% signup rate then its obvious to me where the problem lies. Once I’ve done my job and gotten the potential player to click the link – it’s the casinos responsibility to convert.
If I were to believe your statement Id have to believe that its all based on luck and that the same individuals are the ones always getting lucky.
Furthermore, it’s a bit of an enigma why webmaster 1 can send 100 hits and webmaster 2 can send 100 hits and have results that aren’t on par. I’ve seen on several occasions that you like to rave about your conversion rates. So why (based on the same 100 hits) does webmaster 1 have 40% conversion and webmaster 2 only have a 4% rate?
A lot of affiliate managers would just say give us more traffic – put us on the top of your page. Firstly, I don’t know many affiliates that would increase the amount of traffic they are sending unless they were already getting results. Secondly, I believe 100 hits from the top of my pages is equivalent to 100 hits on the bottom – it still represents the delivery of 100 potential players to the casinos front door.
Of course if affiliate A is sending 10,000 hits and affiliate B is only sending the 100 it would be expected that the former would be making better profits. BUT if it’s a 40% conversion rate then affiliate A should have 4000 signups and affiliate B should have 4, but for some reason this law of averages doesn’t hold any weight with certain programs.
Myself, I take great pride in the quality of my sites and I believe this quality assist productivity for each and every program I promote; at least that’s been my experience with other programs. I’ve gotten to a point where I know with relatively certainty how much I will make from a given number of hits, regardless of the program.
In my case and as the professor has pointed out your program hasn’t performed as well as other MGS programs.
I hope my opinions do not hamper recent improvements, but rather assist in the further development of affiliate / manager relationship(s.)
Secondly, I believe 100 hits from the top of my pages is equivalent to 100 hits on the bottom – it still represents the delivery of 100 potential players to the casinos front door.
Actually I think 100 clicks from the bottom are better clicks. On top it is often just an impulse – but the visitor who has worked their way through info to the bottom is making a more educated decision to click.
Hi arkyt,
I just wanted to jump in here and back Marlo on the “some programs convert for some and not others” bit.
Although, I would break it down to software and not individual casinos. I have been trying to convert Microgaming casinos for ages, without success, but almost any other software, the %’s are really good. I have really tried everything, but the users that land on my site just don’t seem to like Microgaming.. go figure :confused:
Greetings long lost Peralis! 😎
I think there are some very valid points from all here. Personally I think the fall off in Micro conversions is in large part due to the increasing list of banned countries. Since it’s implementation CTR has remained steady but conversions have fallen dramatically.
Even though targeting geographically anyone who has access to site logs can also see the huge diversity of visitor nationality. I do remember seeing once, with some amusement, a visit from Vatican City.
I am sure there are many other factors involved, but like Peralis, conversion for Micro these days is virtually non existent, despite extensive and prime real estate. Yet, many webmasters still do well with them.
For some reason, many visitors will wade through and click a casino that I had almost forgotten about. A click is a click from a site and I can only assume it is because the visitor is interested.
Somewhere between interest and download something seems to happen…
Like Arkyt we use a comprehensive tracking system and this is great to gauge the effectiveness of various promotions and gain valuable info on conversions. In fact, very rapidly we can see the effectiveness of what works and fine tune accordingly.
