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TheGooner wrote:Poker is not casino … repeat the mantra … poker is not casino.
:hehe:Poker is not casino… OK, got it.
Now, I’ve been working under the assumption that we were all talking about poker.TheGooner wrote:A poker whale is probably not losing money – remember that poker rooms take money from each hand (the rake) which gets shared with the affiliate.It’s players who win or lose money … not the room … and for a player to continually be playing and generating rake – then I assume that they are actually winning or at least treading water.
:satisfiedSo they’ll play on – hopefully indefinately – or until making money becomes boring.
Alright, so let me get this straight – the longer a player plays, the more hands they play; the more rake they generate which in turn a percentage is taken out and given to the affiliate. In terms of your 59 player, $7k example – Your top 2 players generated half the rake. So does that mean that they played for an extraordinary amount of time in a given day/week/month? How long did it take for you to generate the rake?
TheGooner wrote:I have no doubt that CPA wins in year one – but you have to work just as hard (with new visitors) to repeat in year two – and again in year three.My main concern is that with all the hand-waving that’s been going on between companies over affiliate contracts, the long-term prospects of retaining your “life time” players does not look good. Unless these “life time” contracts between affiliate and their players are upheld consistently, the integrity and usefulness of these contracts will become less important and more like a joke.
TheGooner wrote:If we assume that 40%-50% of customers stay loyal in poker then you can see how rev share is a headstart in year two – and even better in the long term.Do you have any sources to indicate those are close approximations?
TheGooner wrote:I’m sure there are much much bigger poker affiliates here.
:allears: — Where are all you poker affiliates?REGARDING WHALES – IT”S VALUE PLAYED NOT TIME IN.
Poker whales don’t play more – they play for bigger stakes. So no – they’re not on for 20 hours a day. They just play higher value and richer hands rake more money.AFFILIATE POSITIONING
I’d agree that at least half the sites I see being promoted are a short term plan only – and unfortunately that includes some on CAP as well.Casino’s opening/closing, rebranding. Pluuuhhhheessseeee. It’s simply re-arranging the deckchairs. There are a few brands of poker – and a few networks – but in the end it’s about safety for the player, and fairness to the affiliate. And all the rest is window dressing.
Free-rolls, WSOP seats, match offers … blah blah blah.
:laughcry:The whole operation with some casinos seems built around surviving long enough to be bought out for large wedges of cash – and as one senior affiliate has been saying on here – the casino/poker industry is ripe for a shakeout.
In the end the debate about CPA v Rev-share is as old as the industry. I can’t guarantee to you that one is better than the other for you and your site
(err especially site unseen – hint hint!!)
:satisfiedBut all I’ll say is … I’m on rev-share.
Hope it’s helped … or at least given you something to think about.
:drunk2:Good luck.
TheGooner wrote:… at least half the sites I see being promoted are a short term plan only …… in the end it’s about safety for the player, and fairness to the affiliate. And all the rest is window dressing.
I see. So, are there any casino/poker sites out there which fit such criterias that you’d recommend?
