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@Dominique 129683 wrote:
BB1, who ya gonna believe, google or your friends?
Just go to their site and look.
Throwing out aged links to quality sites will certainly not help you. If you have lots of outgoing links, research and cull. Do the legwork!
I think there are some pretty cool sites that’ll do this for ya too.. WebCEO may be one of them, you plug in the url’s of your link partners, then it checks to see if you have a link, and what the anchor text is..
Might then go to the sites themselves and check for nofollow tags etc.
Then instead of immediately taking the links down from what could be really beneficial sites, you might send an email… “Hey we traded links, I have yours up.. but can’t find mine.. am I looking in the right place?” ..
Because though some may have taken them down to be jerks, others may have just edited the page, changed templates, or accidentally deleted an include, not remember why the hell the link was up there in the first place.. or whatever, and you might end up with some cool make up links out of the deal
Good Luck
LadyH
If the sites are related in theme, have some content and some pagerank, chances are very good that you are getting some kind of credit.
Your SEO guy is wrong, you can’t micro analyse your link partners like that. The best you can do is evaluate the quality of the site and page that is linking to you and make an educated guess about the value of the link. You can check cache:http://www.pagethatyoursiteislinkedfrom.com/links.html on google to get a sense of how frequently it is spidered.
Google wants to give you an idea about who is linking to you, but they don’t want you to be able reverse engineer their ranking algorithms so they don’t show all incoming links.
Also, there are no bad links, just make sure that the anchor text is keyword relevant.
Links have lesser value these days than before, but we all know that. Do not underestimate the power of links as having more links will never hurt your listings, but just not benefit your listings. If having a ton of links hurt your listings then we can all sabotage our competitors website by sending tons of links their way and having them de-listed?
What can hurt your listings is having unrelated links being sent out from your site. Hence sending links to a pharmacy site from a gambling site (this is frowned upon by google), but yahoo has not caught up yet.
Do not stop doing link trading unless you have another plan to get high listing in google. It is my personal belief that links are still a key feature for google, yahoo and msn and is good to remember that
Recently on my own wheretobet.com site I allowed webmasters the ability to add their own listings to the site and a few webmasters took this up. Unlike having a directory called links I have included the links back to the webmasters site in the search results as seen on http://www.wheretobet.com/tags/online+sportsbooks/ (scroll to the bottom and you will see what I mean). Google is all about relevance and should links you are sending out and incoming links be relevant you should be ok.
My two cents,
Firstly, I think google is up to something lately and it does involve links. My incoming links were zero for a couple of days, and now the opposite from BB1 is true, CAP has a ton and GPWA a few. You know BB1, when google looks at forum links it actually only counts a few? You don’t get credit for every post when they do the actual evaluation, no matter what they show.
Additionally, my PR dropped, my indexed pages shrivelled, and my serps, visitors and spider visits went up. I wouldn’t put too much creed in google at the time.
I am a firm believer in quality links. Someone with ten pages of links is not a valuable partner unless the link is very old. Each link carries minute value.
I definitely recommend taking a day to weed. PR is not that important IMO, link value and site content are, and the quality of sites linking into your partner is too. It all reflects on you.
I always say it’s like the AIDS saying: you sleep with everyone your partner sleeps with.
Steve,
I don’t know if this makes any difference in links showing, but GPWA recently started using vbSEO.
vbSEO says:
vBSEO makes it easier for search engines to crawl more of your valuable vBulletin content faster and more often giving you higher keyword relevancy.
By installing vBSEO for your vBulletin forums you should expect to:
* Get more of your forum pages indexed in the major search engines
* Get your pages indexed faster
* Improve your keyword relevancy for all pages
* Prevent possible duplicate content penaltiesThe result of installing vBSEO you should expect is:
* Higher visitor to member conversion rate (i.e. gain more new members faster)
* Get visitors who are more highly targeted to the content you provide
* Increase the monthly revenues earned from your forums
* Improve your chances of achieving big-board.com statusHi again all,
well actually the page I was sent to … and I can’t remember the link but it was to show who is linked to you and you type in your url and then it shows who is linked to you.. I also visited a page provided that showed links via google….. both only showed my own sites linked to me and as mentioned . a few from CAP and many more from GPWA …..
I will take the advice given and take a step back and check again in a few days before I remove links.
frankly I just was pissed because I have kept these links up literally years and then when I checked …. not one link partner showing and I felt very taken advantage of ….
at one point I even was afraid to keep up links to my own sites (due to the BS laws passed) … but kept up links to partners so its not like I’m not trying to honor my trades.
As I know Randy will say….. I’ve even tried putting up links to friends on my first pages …. just to see if it boosted their rankings. Not saying I kept them up on front pages…. but I did give it a shot over a period of a few months ….. just to see if it made a difference.
anyway …. I’ll take advice given and take a step back and check again and via the sites given here ….not just the sites my SEO partner has given me.
I want to be fair. btw: People I’ve written content for have had their links added to at least some of my sites without my asking for recips because its in our best interests that their sites rank.
Very much appreciate the feedback because as mentioned … I don’t know squat about SEO and take very seriously your advice. Thank You!
S.
Like a few others suggested, you should redirect your www version to non www to consolidate your pagerank and avoid duplicate content penalties. You can do this by adding the following code to your .htaccess file:
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.bondedcasinos.com [nc]
RewriteRule (.*) http://bondedcasinos.com/$1 [R=301,L][/CODE]Also search engines will index / and /index.html as different pages. If you want to redirect all you index pages to / you can add this code as well.
[CODE]RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^(GET|HEAD) /([^/]+/)*index.(php|html|htm) HTTP
RewriteRule ^(([^/]+/)*)index.(php|html|htm)$ http://bondedcasinos.com/$1 [R=301,L][/CODE]Now if your going to use both, then you should put the second one first to avoid a double redirect if someone goes to [url]www.bondedcasinos.com/index.html[/url] it will only have to redirect once.
[CODE]RewriteEngine On
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RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.bondedcasinos.com [nc]
RewriteRule (.*) http://bondedcasinos.com/$1 [R=301,L][/CODE]Also search engines will index / and /index.html as different pages. If you want to redirect all you index pages to / you can add this code as well.
RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^(GET|HEAD) /([^/]+/)*index.(php|html|htm) HTTP
RewriteRule ^(([^/]+/)*)index.(php|html|htm)$ http://bondedcasinos.com/$1 [R=301,L][/CODE]Now if your going to use both, then you should put the second one first to avoid a double redirect if someone goes to [url]www.bondedcasinos.com/index.html[/url] it will only have to redirect once.
[CODE]RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^(GET|HEAD) /([^/]+/)*index.(php|html|htm) HTTP
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RewriteRule ^(([^/]+/)*)index.(php|html|htm)$ http://bondedcasinos.com/$1 [R=301,L][/CODE]Now if your going to use both, then you should put the second one first to avoid a double redirect if someone goes to http://www.bondedcasinos.com/index.html it will only have to redirect once.
RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^(GET|HEAD) /([^/]+/)*index.(php|html|htm) HTTP
RewriteRule ^(([^/]+/)*)index.(php|html|htm)$ http://bondedcasinos.com/$1 [R=301,L]RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.bondedcasinos.com [nc]
RewriteRule (.*) http://bondedcasinos.com/$1 [R=301,L][/CODE][CODE]RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} ^(GET|HEAD) /([^/]+/)*index.(php|html|htm) HTTP
RewriteRule ^(([^/]+/)*)index.(php|html|htm)$ http://bondedcasinos.com/$1 [R=301,L]RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^www.bondedcasinos.com [nc]
RewriteRule (.*) http://bondedcasinos.com/$1 [R=301,L][/CODE]@bb1webs 129696 wrote:
Hi again all,
well actually the page I was sent to … and I can’t remember the link but it was to show who is linked to you and you type in your url and then it shows who is linked to you.. I also visited a page provided that showed links via google….. both only showed my own sites linked to me and as mentioned . a few from CAP and many more from GPWA …..
I will take the advice given and take a step back and check again in a few days before I remove links.
frankly I just was pissed because I have kept these links up literally years and then when I checked …. not one link partner showing and I felt very taken advantage of ….
at one point I even was afraid to keep up links to my own sites (due to the BS laws passed) … but kept up links to partners so its not like I’m not trying to honor my trades.
As I know Randy will say….. I’ve even tried putting up links to friends on my first pages …. just to see if it boosted their rankings. Not saying I kept them up on front pages…. but I did give it a shot over a period of a few months ….. just to see if it made a difference.
anyway …. I’ll take advice given and take a step back and check again and via the sites given here ….not just the sites my SEO partner has given me.
I want to be fair. btw: People I’ve written content for have had their links added to at least some of my sites without my asking for recips because its in our best interests that their sites rank.
Very much appreciate the feedback because as mentioned … I don’t know squat about SEO and take very seriously your advice. Thank You!
S.
Hi bb1,
I’m confused as to what you’re concerned about?
My retail site dropped in page rank in the last update but actually moved up in Google from position 7 to position 2 for my top keyword.For my slots site I only have 7 backlinks in Google but sometimes I see a link exchange partner site as the referring link in my stats. Every once in a while I check all my link exchange partners to see if I’m still listed with them and if not I dump them.
One of the few sites that show up for a Google back link for me is xhttp://www.ogdb.org/
Cheers,
Slotplayer@slotplayer 129739 wrote:
Hi bb1,
My retail site dropped in page rank in the last update but actually moved up in Google from position 7 to position 2 for my top keyword.
For my slots site I only have 7 backlinks in Google but sometimes I see a link exchange partner site as the referring link in my stats. Every once in a while I check all my link exchange partners to see if I’m still listed with them and if not I dump them.
Cheers,
SlotplayerExactly. Thats what happened to me too and thats what I do.
Hey BB1webs.
It sounds like you should be pissed off – but not at your link buddies – instead at your amateurish “SEO expert”.
He runs some sort of automated program – produces an automatic page – and treats the results as the absolute truth without discussion an a manual follow up with you?
Always verify anything told to you by an “expert” mate. You’ve been in this business long enough to know what is what – even if you don’t understand the ins and outs of SEO.
If something sounds too weird to be true .. then it’s probably a configuration error.
:tongue:You are being told age old links are not in place? Then you should have manually checked a few out. By the sound of it the links are in place – and things are as they should be – on the whole.
It seems to me that your “SEO expert” got his certificate out of a cornflakes packet (did it come with a badge too?) – and that following this person blindly will only diminish your SERPs.
Before you make radical changes make sure that you engage in some manual verification and checking. The old human brain does a far better job of “sensibility checking” than any automated code.
Steve,
Dont count on google to show your backlinks.Yahoo is much more accurate.Just look at my website http://www.v-chip.org , in google it has 18,000 backlinks ,in yahoo it has 2,059,421 .Almost 2 million links that google does not see and they ARE related to the topic.So google really sucks not your partners at cap
