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I would think the same thing, that so long as the person entering there email has it made very clear to them what they are asking for it would not be a spam issue. I also appriciate that I’m new to this and I’m certainly open to learning what I may be not considering here.
At some point ultimately it seems that to promote our businesses we must harvest email with the intention of utilizing these in one way or another to facilitate existing business & to create new business. Hopefully this will be for an offer of something interesting or of benifit somehow to those that sign up. I hate as much as the next guy the bobardment of emails from a million sources that I have no idea where they get my email. I also think that no matter how clear you are about what people are signing up for there will always be folks that get upset that it’s spam because of any number of reasons. Still if you make it clear they are registering for a specific “what-ever-it-might-be”. Then until they say stop then they are a fair prospect.
Open to all thoughts, I am new, & maybe I’ve missed enough dialogs from the past to not know what to read betweeb the lines here, but it also seems that done appropriately and with recipricol fairness this may not be a bad thing….
Ben
harvesting email addresses in some countries is a crime. The last person sentenced from Michigan on September 3, 2006. He is currently serving 9 years for violating the Virginia’s Anti-Spam Act. I would advise against doing such activities.
greek39
I think my ignorance shows. I think what I was trying to say is it seems that if you have a site and you ask people to give you there emails provided it’s used for what they think it will be or as customers willing to give it then I had assumed it would be OK. Is it?
Man I sure feel like I got a lot to learn still.
Ben
Ok there is some confusion coming about due to terminology….
Email HARVESTING is generally defined as the collection of email addresses by an automated means and the recipients have NOT opted in to receive this email. This is commonly done by spiders (automated scripts) which comb the web and look for “email to:” links then add these to a SPAM list. These are whats most commonly thought of when we use the term “harvested” emails. This is SPAM and a definite NO NO.
Newsletter Opt In’s are just that, people that have manually entered their email adresses and are opting in to receive newsletters or other email items.
This is NOT SPAM and is perfectly acceptable. Its NOT email harvesting. It’s newsletter registration and is practiced by virtually everyone.I think the bluring of the lines expressed by some of the members is when an opt in box is placed on a website and it’s not clear to the people registering that they will be receiving emails from another party and NOT from the website they are signing up at. This is a moderately grey area. It is OPT IN email though, so technically its not SPAM. And its NOT harvesting.
Hope this helps and doesnt muddy the waters even further.
Dan___SF wrote:On Monday I am sending several CAP members several examples of the writers content so they can tell me how much they want and what they want the content to cover. We will then work out a deal for exposure.Just wondering if the CAP members Dan was referring to received the examples? Dan__SF seems to have gone quiet.
I’m still trying to figure how the one million dollar question came into this hehehe and yes I did get samples of some articles.I think he is proposing to pay in content in excahnge for running a mailing list from your/my website.
For the record the content was very well done.
With $1M, I guess I would modify my marketing plan a bit. The email thing is a bit suspicious, but there is no doubt that email marketing is a powerful tool, assuming you aren’t sending worthless information to users. If you have content writers, then I would assume the content is something decent.
But, if I had $1M to spend, I would have to look at some traditional mediums, print advertising to start with. So maybe 5% on the email marketing, 55% in traditional mediums and 45% on SEO.
heres one lol for fun but could work
$1,000,000 – make 2,000 ($500 each) casino portals all mainly advertising your casino and linking to it too which may get you page 1 for term “Casino” etc.
Then any extra money that you get from the 2000 portals from advertising another casino can go into a pot which makes more portals.
Then you keep doing this for 2 years and then you have like 10,000 portals, all linking to you and you will be page 1 for all sorts of top terms.
so in the end you have your casino on page 1 for loads of top terms, 10,000 portals also driving traffic to your casino and any extra you make from the portals from other casinos can be re-invested.
You will need a base in india for staff to manage the 10,000 portals though lol
I think i read a new graduate wages are $40 per week.****ALSO make sure you make yourself CAP certified offer high revshare and u will get lots of affiliates too
*****darko123 wrote:$1,000,000 – make 2,000 ($500 each) casino portals all mainly advertising your casino and linking to it too which may get you page 1 for term “Casino” etc.Then any extra money that you get from the 2000 portals from advertising another casino can go into a pot which makes more portals.
This has been attempted by many and didn’t work out too well in the long run.
The search engines aren’t entirely stupid.
not entirely clever though either http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-34,GGLJ:en-GB&q=failure ….. or very very clever lol
you would have to cover tracks so most are on sep ip and ownership can be hidden (unless the rumours are true that big G only became a registrar to get can get hold of all the private registration details)
it was only a fun suggestion – but the truth is more links = higher serps
Professor- Thanks for clearing it up, yes this is 100% OPTIN and legal.
Darko/Dom – Yes it is 100% possible a yes it was done recently. It is VERY hard and very expensive. It does work. You need to use every hosting company in the world, and it is a long term investment. We all know how smart long term investments can be that focus on cheating the search engines! It cost MUCH less then $500 a site though.
CAP – We have cleared everything up – the content we will provide you is as good as it gets and you will work directly with our writers! All I ask is a small optin newsletter box on your sites. It will state that it is a sponsored newsletter optin. If you need content for your site, large orders or small, just send me an IM and don’t be shy, we are only helping each other!
Dan
