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Once an aff manager manually added $1 to my account to reach the minimum payment requirement. Then removed it next month. On other occasion, another manager added click counts manually when I complained that the tag wasn’t working when put the banner on my site. I know he added it manually because the number of clicks were much greater than I made on the banner and it was before the page was published and after that the tag still not worked. Still with another company, all my active players dissappeared for two weeks, as soon as I complained, the players were returned. I’m positive that the stats can be altered any ways.
@Martyn 184052 wrote:
errrr…. disagree with this. Having having had experience of both Playtech and MG I think I can comment on this.
Playtech – as an affiliate manager for a playtech brand it was very easy…FAR TOO EASY to alter tags on player accounts. But being a responsible, trustworthy and professional affiliate manager this was never abused.
Microgaming – Two things with MG. Firstly there is no way for me as an affiliate manager to alter affiliate tags to shave your stats. Secondly, not even MG will alter tags for us in order to remove or add affiliate tags. This was discovered during our beta testing for my current casino where tracking was being tested.
The above was based upon my personal opinions and experiences with the brands in question. You decide. :wink-wink
So do you have the database with the Microgaming affiliate system on your servers?
Arent’s those ‘commisisions’ supposed to do checking on their licensees?
PS – I wish I had $40,000 in any month
Seriously guys and gals … I’m amazed at this thread.
If you’re working with people that you can even seriously think are shaving and changing your statistics and payment amounts … then run to the exit and change partners.
For goodness sake there are literally over two dozen hugely reliable companies that deal straight up with affiliates … don’t get swayed by big promises … deal with the best companies for your players and you’ll also get a fair deal.
Mind you I’ve also seen other threads that try to TAR and FEATHER these companies for bundling, or for having negative rollover, or not cross crediting. But when you stop to think about it – the reason that the good companies do this is that they’ve set up seperate stream and they’re opffring a fair share of overall profits that you bring.
Step up to places like : Reward Affiliates, Bet365, Ladbrokes, PaddyPower, Brightshare, Betfair, and tens of others who have the size and scale and/or reputation that puts them head and shoulders above the rest.
The headline percentage or fringe benefits may not seem as high, but your stats are true, and your players remain. Stick with the best – and know that you’re getting a fair deal.
Bad companies can “seem” to offer better deals – but if they’re shaving then who knows what you are really getting a share of?
– Slick promises, big marketing, huge bonus offers … (or so it seems)
– Poor customer retention, missing customers, bad affiliate managers, slack responses … (as it is)90% of the complaints we see are from part-time or newbie affiliates who’ve been attracted by the hype and glitz of these crappy companies. Experienced affiliates know to simply delete the email, and get off the phone when they contact us.
If your serious about this business, then partner ONLY with serious businesses.
:hattip:it is always a gamble if you choose programs that carry over negatives (rtg, playtech not all but most of them do).
Maybe you get more % wise but as i found out it can ruin all your marketing efforts in a jiffy!
Now i am not promoting programs anymore that have a negative carryover, too risky if you ask me.
I am thankfull to all experienced members with years of expertise that recommend programs that have a good track record. I am gonna stick to those.
R.
@TheGooner 184211 wrote:
Seriously guys and gals … I’m amazed at this thread.
If you’re working with people that you can even seriously think are shaving and changing your statistics and payment amounts … then run to the exit and change partners.
For goodness sake there are literally over two dozen hugely reliable companies that deal straight up with affiliates … don’t get swayed by big promises … deal with the best companies for your players and you’ll also get a fair deal.
Mind you I’ve also seen other threads that try to TAR and FEATHER these companies for bundling, or for having negative rollover, or not cross crediting. But when you stop to think about it – the reason that the good companies do this is that they’ve set up seperate stream and they’re opffring a fair share of overall profits that you bring.
Step up to places like : Reward Affiliates, Bet365, Ladbrokes, PaddyPower, Brightshare, Betfair, and tens of others who have the size and scale and/or reputation that puts them head and shoulders above the rest.
The headline percentage or fringe benefits may not seem as high, but your stats are true, and your players remain. Stick with the best – and know that you’re getting a fair deal.
Bad companies can “seem” to offer better deals – but if they’re shaving then who knows what you are really getting a share of?
– Slick promises, big marketing, huge bonus offers … (or so it seems)
– Poor customer retention, missing customers, bad affiliate managers, slack responses … (as it is)90% of the complaints we see are from part-time or newbie affiliates who’ve been attracted by the hype and glitz of these crappy companies. Experienced affiliates know to simply delete the email, and get off the phone when they contact us.
If your serious about this business, then partner ONLY with serious businesses.
:hattip:I agree with most of those ,when you are looking for programs look in their forums and if you see alot of doubt on stats ,complaints of no replies or late payments then that should be key to stay away.
@Inspiration 184217 wrote:
it is always a gamble if you choose programs that carry over negatives (rtg, playtech not all but most of them do).
Maybe you get more % wise but as i found out it can ruin all your marketing efforts in a jiffy!
Now i am not promoting programs anymore that have a negative carryover, too risky if you ask me.
I am thankfull to all experienced members with years of expertise that recommend programs that have a good track record. I am gonna stick to those.
R.
Yes that’s the main reason we dropped Mainstreet ,negatives were killing us .
Here are my inetbet stats not earning for months, maybe a good casino for players but i am not a sponsor so this is my first rtg program i have to delete soon, figure out for yourself. (Before i get spanked : yes it is my own stupid mistake to join programs with a negative carryover).
Summary for this Pay Period
Number of Clickthroughs: 15 Number of Downloaders: 122 Number of Players: 175 Number of New Depositors: 0 Total Initial Deposits: $0.00 Total Deposits: $0.00 Net Win: $1,666.77 Coupon Amounts Awarded: $1,715.00 Manager Credit Amounts Awarded: $0.00 ChargeBacks: $0.00 Net Profit: (Net Win – Coupons – Credits – Chargebacks) ($48.23) Amount Deducted: $0.00 Amount Miscellaneous Adjustments: $0.00 Amount Added For Reversed Bans: $0.00 Amount Earned: ($12.05) Amount Earned From Tiers: $0.00 Carry Over: ($100.23) Amount Accrued This Period: ($12.05) Summary to Date
Number of Clickthroughs: 2924 Number of Downloaders: 2507 Number of Players: 1477 Number of New Depositors: 31 Total Initial Deposits: $757.00 Total Deposits: $13,888.08 Net Win: $18,258.84 Coupon Amounts Awarded: $15,865.05 Manager Credit Amounts Awarded: $822.03 ChargeBacks: $0.00 Net Profit: (Net Win – Coupons – Credits – Chargebacks) $217.92 Amount Deducted: $21.62 Amount Miscellaneous Adjustments: $0.00 Amount Added For Reversed Bans: $0.00 Amount Earned From Tiers: $0.00 Amount Earned: $196.29 Inspiration, those figures are HORRIBLE!
I agree you shouldn’t work with affiliate programs whom you do not trust. I’ve been working with Canaffco (DublinBet) for the last year and a half. I feel that they are great people, and run a very clean program. Every day I see the amounts earned from each player that particular day, and when they registered. Every day I still have players playing that were from more than a year ago.
So, I would find great programs and great people and stick with them.
