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I’ve been trying to register domain names and this guy in China keeps just beating me to the punch
Once is coincidence, but more than once, i don’t think so, he must somehow be in my computer
This is the info for him, i just tried to register this name usaff.com, it was available for some time, but as soon as i tried to register it, boom, there he is again, just grabbing it before me, for the 2nd time in 2 days
Registrant:
Wang Lee (USAFF-COM-DOM)
Olympia Plaza
255 King’s Road
North Point,
Hong Kong
+1.7602683757
+1.7602683757
contact@wangleedomains.comDomain Name: USAFF.COM
Status: PROTECTEDAdministrative Contact:
Wang Lee contact@wangleedomains.com
Olympia Plaza
255 King’s Road
North Point,
Hong Kong
+1.7602683757
Fax- +1.7602683757Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Wang Lee contact@wangleedomains.com
Olympia Plaza
255 King’s Road
North Point,
Hong Kong
+1.7602683757
Fax- +1.7602683757Record last updated on 29-May-2006.
Record expires on 29-May-2007.
Record created on 29-May-2006.Domain servers in listed order:
Name Server: DNS2.DNS-PARKING-SERVICE.COM
Name Server: DNS1.DNS-PARKING-SERVICE.COM
Name Server: DNS.DNS-PARKING-SERVICE.COMWhat do i do here, this is not a fluke, i can show you another name i registered on May 28th, exact same thing happened
Any thoughts ?
I know that sometimes they will show a domain as available when it’s really just in a grace period. This has happened to me before when I tried to register a domain.
Perhaps it was ready to permanantly expire and he was notified somehow that someone else was trying to register and he woke up?
Seems strange though that this would happen twice to you with the same person.
its no fluke, i guarantee it
the other name i grabbed was available for 2 years, and is showing up in my account as mine, but he registered it just before me, like minutes before me actually, the same guy
so he has hacked his way in somewhere, either on my computer, or on my names registrar’s site, because he is either seeing everything i see or being informed the moment someone tries to register a name
i think he is in my computer
get supergreek here, this is a job for him, hackerbasher greek39 where are you, i want this guy’s head
A hijacked computer quite possible, but I doubt it. Anything originating from China I feel is real danger. The network they use is full of holes, half the time they don’t have access to the web.
It does seem rather odd however.
greek39
Nick –
They do have alert programs for domain names. You can enter in the ones you have an interest in and as soon as there is some activity on the name, they are alerted. Don’t ask me what these programs are because I can’t remember – but seems to me I’ve seen something like this in the past. People can even subscribe to lists of domains that are ready to expire and are notified the moment its available so they can quickly snatch it up. I’ve read stories of people losing some big names over this kind of thing.
Who knows – since he is way over in China, maybe he somehow has it setup to purchase it with a click of a button if he sees someone is actually trying to buy it. Could be that his name, address and billing info is already stored with whoever he has this setup with, so a simple click is all it took.
Interesting ewhitaker
It takes me one click to buy a domain too, i have an account set up
I heard about this scam a few years back, this one in particular, about guys over in China buying every domain name and parking it free, never using them
After running some spyware, i found i had something called rev2 or something on my computer, apparently it is a program that affiliates use to redirect from your site and steal your affiliate profits, that was from the description i got for it
i’m sure some people here would know more about it and how it works, interesting
Wow, nobody has heard of this progy, or is it that you all are using it and keeping quiet about it
I just found it by running some military strength spyware
what it does, somehow, is when somebody clicks your aff link from your site, it changes the aff code to whatever the culprit wants it to be
is there anyway the aff programs can check to see what pages the clicks are coming from instead of just relying on the code, this thing has me worried and could explain why i have just 0’s at some places
if you promote each place equally, over the course of a couple years, and have 0’s at some places, but hundreds of players at others, that should not be right, there could be a problem
i know everything is possible, but i’m not one of those people who think that way, if it is improbable, then something is wrong
i know i’ve been a bit paranoid lately, but i think i have some reason to be paranoid here
Ive not heard of that piece of spyware, however unless you host your site on your PC then there’s nothing to worry about. The software would have to be installed on your visitors computers for it to go changing affiliate links, it simply can not do that by just being installed on your computer.
cyclone wrote:Ive not heard of that piece of spyware, however unless you host your site on your PC then there’s nothing to worry about. The software would have to be installed on your visitors computers for it to go changing affiliate links, it simply can not do that by just being installed on your computer.Yes – if it is website referrals, then this is correct
However…. If this program ran on Nick777’s computer and changed the username (via cookie, registry or however they are holding info) ‘on the fly’, then this guy could certainly register a bunch of domains while Nick777 paid for it even.
It’s all programming and very likely that someone would be able to figure it out.
Good thing you found the program and removed it.. Maybe it affected more than just domain names.
What a timely post Nick. A friend of mine was thinking about making a site and had spent several hours on godaddy scoping out names. He had a list of maybe 20 names, and finally selected one. Note these names were pretty long and nothing really special. He goes in to register it the next day (20 hours after looking them up) and the SAME GUY from Hong Kong had registered it earlier that day.
My thoughts are 3-fold. 1) my friend has some spyware that allows his surfing to be monitored (although I hardly think it would be worth it to try and “extort” new domain names). 2) He has some sort of automated program at godaddy to autoregister names that have been searched (although my friends other domains he searched were still available.) The most likely culprit IMO is what I have read about on Bob Parson’s blog called domain kiting http://www.bobparsons.com/DomainKiting.html. The article is really interesting and you should read it, but in a nutshell, it is someone who sets up a registrar solely to exploit a loophole in the name registration process. They profit by temporarily auto registering thousands of names for 7 days at a time, putting up an adwords/clickable type landing page on it, then cancelling the registration during the add/drop period. Net result, no cost to them, and free adwords clicks for 1000 sites for 7 days at a time. The ones that make enough clicks to register, they do, and the rest they drop. The fact that the admin contact is contact@wangleedomains.com and when you go to that domain, there is just a dummy page reinforces this possibility.
The good news is that if number 3 is the case, it may be available in 6 days or so.
Hope this helps,
CBW
Edit: fixed the link.
Nick – interesting you mention Rev2
I started a new post about possible affiliate deception and when I researched him in whois, Rev2 was also mentioned
voovoo
Oh wow
you see, i’m not paranoid dammit
i knew it
this could be a problem for a lot of people, if this guy is using some program to rip you off, as i assume he has done with me, assuming he is connected with this program i found on my pc, and not just a domain thief
the best way i could describe this program is that it just changes your affiliate url in the affiliate programs database, so when somebody clicks your link it shows a different aff url in the stats database
i would be very interested to find out from some affiliate managers here if they have affiliates in hong kong making lots of money, but i suppose those tracks could be covered easily, all you would need is a friend anywhere in the world to open an aff account, then they divy up the money
i wonder if this is more prone to happen with certain affiliate tracking software, as opposed to others, because like i said, i have huge differences in numbers
places that use aff tracking software like cpays and those other many programs that use the same stats tracking i figure are affected, because in 2 years my numbers have not moved from 0 with all of those, and that is just impossible, my site gets over 200 visitors a day, there is just no way that can be right
cbwhores wrote:The most likely culprit IMO is what I have read about on Bob Parson’s blog called domain kiting http://www.bobparsons.com/domainkiting.html.
CBWI went to check this out, and the link did not work, but I found what I think you are referring to here: http://www.bobparsons.com/adddropscheme.html
I think that article makes a lot of sense as related to this case, it could be that is what happened here
And i was already aware of this fraud going on in China in particular, as i saw it reported on the news years ago, and i’m pretty sure this Wang clown is guilty of just that
It’s odd they wouldn’t stop this from happening, it is a huge scam
I still would like to know more about that progy i found and if it is related to this, like i said, cpays, casinoblasters, etc…all big performers using the same tracking software bringing up 0’s for me across the board, that has me worried, even though my casino sites are not that big i still have over 100 players at a few places
I had something like this happen, and the domain became available again in 1-2 weeks. I hesitated again. And it was taken again. 1-2 weeks later when it became available again, I bought it.
There was also a case where this happened and godaddy.com indicated the domain was suddenly taken, but I went to dotster.com and it said it was available there, and so I purchased it at dotster.com.
