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  • #610429

    Just writing about those annoying drop down spam banners, whenever anyone clicks any of the JPF casinos, a drop down banner appears that says “Win Free Gas For a Month!” Is that in place to take the affiliates customers?

    To enter, you fill in first name, last name, and email.

    I filled it out and now have received email from JPF offering “Sky is the limit” tournament.

    Problem, my affiliate code is not listed? Is this an attempt to leave the affiliate out of the loop after originally bringing a player to a JPF casino site?

    #775718
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    intresting, would like to know too.

    #775727
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I asked Marcia the following question about a week ago:

    “If I send players to All Slots with my tracking link, they enter their information for the free gas promotion and then download the casino from the page that it redirects to, will this still be tracked to me?”

    Her response was:

    “Yes, I checked it myself.

    Feel free to try it:

    1. Fill in your name and email and click on “GO.”

    2. When you get to the landing page, http://www.alljackpots.com/freegas.html do a right click and get a View Source.

    3. Scroll down to the bottom of the View Source and you’ll see: < ! -- bTag is ajaff1471 -- >“

    From that aspect the tracking should work. However, I’d also like to know about the email that you received and if it will track if you were to click a link in the email.

    #775731
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @nodepositneeded 172478 wrote:

    I asked Marcia the following question about a week ago:

    “If I send players to All Slots with my tracking link, they enter their information for the free gas promotion and then download the casino from the page that it redirects to, will this still be tracked to me?”

    Her response was:

    “Yes, I checked it myself.

    Feel free to try it:

    1. Fill in your name and email and click on “GO.”

    2. When you get to the landing page, http://www.alljackpots.com/freegas.html do a right click and get a View Source.

    3. Scroll down to the bottom of the View Source and you’ll see: < ! -- bTag is ajaff1471 -- >“

    From that aspect the tracking should work. However, I’d also like to know about the email that you received and if it will track if you were to click a link in the email.

    thanks – I was going to ask about it as well.

    #775744
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    the email shoudl track, since a user might not download anything that day…

    than receive the email that leads him to download signup and deposit

    3nuts >> If you have the email can you click on the link and then right click on the landing page?

    first clear all cookies

    #775844
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi guys,

    The cookies will hold the most recent banner tag.

    If a potential player clicks on affiliate A’s banner, goes to the site, but does not download……..then tomorrow clicks on affiliate B’s banner, goes to the site, and DOES download, the second banner tag is the one that will “catch.”

    Unless I’m not understanding your questions……

    Marcia

    #775870

    Hi Marcia,
    The question for me is:
    If a player goes to our site, clicks a banner to say All Jackpots, only fills in that annoying drop down that asks for name and email address for “Win Free Gas For a Month!” but doesn’t download

    Then that player receives an email from Jackpot Factory offering “Sky is the Limit” tournament and that player downloads off that Jackpot Factory email.

    Who’s customer is it? Also since Jackpot Factory will now have that players email address, what’s stopping them from taking our customers in the future?

    To me it appears JPF may be collecting email addresses to leave the affiliate out of the loop.

    I filled out the “Win free gas” spam banner and have already received an email from JPF and could find nothing leading back to our affiliate code?

    #775892
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    exactly what i wanted to ask too, please say it tracks

    #775960
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Sorry for the delay in my response here. I want to collect all the facts from the casino management before I get back to you.

    I can tell you already that the primary purpose in this Free Gas campaign is to contact the players who have registered at the casino but never played. This helps affiliates as well, as a registered player is already tagged with the affiliate banner tag. In this case, the casino is working very hard to activate registered-but-never-played “players.”

    The question is on emails being sent to those who have not yet registered at the casino. It is these emails I am checking into and hope to have an answer about tomorrow.

    Thanks for your cooperation,
    Marcia

    #776107
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi All,

    OK – here is the scoop on those Win Free Gas promotion emails.

    I can guarantee you – and you’ll have to trust me here, but I know the people involved – that there was never ANY intention of overriding affiliate banner tags with those “Sky’s the Limit” emails sent out.

    It has now been agreed at the highest levels of casino management, that future emails targeting “visitors” who have not yet registered at the casino, will be sent with NO banner tag. This way a visitor who arrived at the casino website with an affiliate tag will retain that tag in his/her cookies.

    Even more reason to promote the Jackpot Factory casinos – those emails harvested from the Win Free Gas promo will be targeted with special offers and promos in the coming months to encourage casino registration.

    If you have any questions, please feel free to post here or write me at marciaa@brightshare.com.

    And thanks for pointing out this issue to us so we could resolve it satisfactorily to all sides.

    Later – Marcia

    #776203

    Hi Marcia,

    It still smells fishy to me, Brightshare/JPF gets much more leverage over the affiliate with this Free Gas Spam banner by harvesting email addresses.

    In the future when the cookie no longer counts and the player receives an email for some promotion from JPF and registers, Brightshare/JPF will have the player and the affiliate gets nothing.

    I think the best remedy is pull down the SPAM banner! It cheapens the JPF casino sites. {I hate spam} and the affiliate won’t lose trust in Brightshare/JPF.

    #776210
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I hear you – I just don’t agree with you.

    With the emails being sent with NO banner tag, the affiliate banner tag in the cookies will hold strong.

    Our cookies hold for an unlimited time so your concern that “In the future when the cookie no longer counts” has nothing to do with JF emails being sent out or not. If the would-be-player cleans his cookies, also your affiliate banner tag will be cleaned – none of us have any control over that.

    As I said, this campaign is tremendous for affiliates in that the emails can reach these would-be-players with your tags and encourage download and registration.

    Thanks,
    Marcia

    #776441
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Marcia,

    The problem is most people, and with their browser settings, have their cookies removed daily. A cookie may work forever but it won’t matter much if the cookie is removed when a user clears their cookies out of their browser.

    In fact, I manually clear my cache and cookies a few times daily and at the very least, automatically every night and I’m sure many other people do to.

    Most people will be very attracted to that free gas promotion and will likely fill out the information. Depending on when they check their email, they may have cleared their cookies or will check their email later the next day.

    I think it would be much better if the affiliate tag was somehow connected and stored along with their email address when they fill it out. This way the affiliate tag will arrive with the email and the affiliate will always get credit.

    If the visitors clear their cookies, there is that extra potential that the affiliate will not get credit for their referrals. And yes, that free gas promotion is probably very attractive and a high percentage of visitors will probably fill it out so it increases that potential for a loss.

    #776616
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi all,

    I don’t believe that the average person deletes his cookies regularly – and for sure not everyday.

    Proof of that would be that the registrations that the Free Gas promotion has gotten as a result of the email sent, ARE coming through with banner tags – affiliate and otherwise.

    And if your potential player has deleted his cookies, chances are high that he will be “lost” to you as a player anyway.

    On the other hand, we will check into the possibility of collecting the banner tags with the emails and contacting these potential players with an email with their original banner tag embedded.

    Thanks for the feedback,
    Marcia

    #777426

    Hi Marcia,

    With absolutely no disrespect to you, I believe higher management may be hoodwinking you.

    I was a former retailer for a satellite provider called Dish Network, this is almost exactly what they did to their retailers, by contacting our customers and offering them special deals for any new customers they sent straight to Dish Network, leaving the retailers out of the loop. This meant loss of activation fees, residuals, etc. They were taking our rightful customers behind our backs.

    It does seem odd that JPF was sending out emails with a tag to email addresses that they collected by way of the affiliates websites?

    Also mentioned earlier :
    “In the future when the cookie no longer counts” has nothing to do with JPF emails being sent out or not.”

    I believe it does matter, when the cookie is gone JPF will still have all the email addresses collected by way of the affiliates websites, which translates to future email promotions = JPF gets those players and affiliates get nothing.

    Very smart, if JPF waits long enough there won’t be any cookies, tags, etc.

    I encourage every Brightshare/JPF affiliate to fill out that drop down spam banner for free gas, using an email address and name that is not in their system and please post back who’s code is that on the email you receive back?
    Either way JPF is setting themselves up for a bright future with the email addresses they are now collecting for themselves. Harvesting

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