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July 2, 2008 at 4:00 pm #771797
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Inactive@GamTrak 167465 wrote:
I’ve never paid for adverstising, direct mail, pay per click, reviews or anything like that. To me that is just as much of a long shot as SEO.
I’m going by my experience since 2001. Relying on SEO IMO does not mean you don’t consider the player or that you have a flawed plan. I see it as utilizing the best tool available to get the results you want.
There is no way anyone can convince me that SEO is not a reliable way to build a steady income because I’ve done it totally with SEO and my income has climbed each and every year and June 2008 was one of my record months.
I’m encouraged by this only because my site is not SEO’d the way I know it should and could be, but once I get it there then I’d like to do a comparasion next year to see who is right.

I don’t pay for ads either.
I am not saying SEO is useless, far from it.
What I am saying is that you need to have enough natural viral traffic to carry you through even if the SE traffic ceases or goes down. If you have a quality site that gets bookmarked, you already have that.
A newbie doesn’t have that yet, and IMO it is really important, that has been my experience. I see so many sites only concentrating on SEO, with fluff content that may please the search engines but is useless for visitors.
G&C has been around since 1999, and for several years it held many (literally hundreds) number one spots in google. Until almost a year ago (July 13th, a friday), for whatever reason, google dropped it to page 5 to 7 on all terms – over night. I assume it is some sort of penalty but have no idea what triggered it, it’s the cleanest site I know. It’s a dinosaur though and we are still fixing things, like nested tables and all sorts of stuff.
So a year without google – am I hurting? Nope.
For the reasons outlined in the above earlier post I made, GamesandCasino is doing just fine, we have even added several staff in that year. :hattip:So, no matter how long you have ruled in google, you never know. A year ago I would have written your post, GamTrak.
July 2, 2008 at 4:03 pm #771798Anonymous
Inactive@Dominique 167469 wrote:
I don’t pay for ads either.
I am not saying SEO is useless, far from it.
What I am saying is that you need to have enough natural viral traffic to carry you through even if the SE traffic ceases or goes down. If you have a quality site that gets bookmarked, you already have that.
A newbie doesn’t have that yet, and IMO it is really important, that has been my experience.
And I agree. It’s not easy to include all of your thoughts in a perfect manner while posting, but thank god for the reply button. LOL
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