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My guess:
They don’t have any case whatsoever and are biding their time until they have thoroughly snooped through all of Neteller’s records and destroyed the industry. Then they’ll let them go.
They arrest 2 people, require outrageous bond amounts, force them to reside in the US until released or incarcerated… and they haven’t decided on whether or not they’re going to indict them…
They’ve tied up funds of US citizens and in some cases done serious damage to their financial well being and they want to think about it some more???
These people should be fired and sued for every dime they ever hoped to make.
I would love to hear comments from the NT lawyers but the fact that none were reported is maybe a little scary. Possibly they don’t want to direct any outrage on something they think could get dropped or maybe they’re working a deal…
I’m wondering how long it would take to drive me to New York… I’d like a seat in the gallery for this trial.
Dominique wrote:My guess:They don’t have any case whatsoever and are biding their time until they have thoroughly snooped through all of Neteller’s records and destroyed the industry. Then they’ll let them go.
Dominique,
You are dreaming. This is a well-orchestrated event by DOJ. If they didn’t think they had a case, and they didn’t think they could intimidate NETeller to cut off US, this never would have happened. They went after the big Kahoonah, to cut off money supply at the source, and hit paydirt. Failing to win on this move, would totally destroy their motive and credibility, so I doubt that this is just a scare tactic. Although I don’t agree with any of this, they played a big hand, and won. As a poker player, you have to admire this orchestration; as a U.S. citizen, you really have to puke.
Not Exactly Poker,
Remember it’s not up to the DOJ to indict. Thats up to the US DA’s office. This could very well be a high stakes game for them. If they do decide to indict and ultimately there is no conviction. That doesn’t speak well for the prosecutibility of any further cases, let alone a PR nightmare. Caselaw speaks volumes in our judicial system. There is alot riding on this case, very well could even be the UAGL itself.
With that said; USToday Report says “As a result of the restrictions placed by third parties, court-ordered seizures and related legal concerns, (Neteller) is unable to make payments to U.S. customers”, according to neteller. If this is the case that would explain why we cannot receive any $$ from Netller. But, it doesn’t excuse some of the other Casino’s,Sportsbooks, etc who are making the same excuse. So someone here is not being upfront. Either, Neteller is wrong and its the DOJ is cause the havoc in the banking system (something I doubt), or there is alot of other casinos and sportsbooks out there using the Neteller excuse as a reason not to pay their patrons for some reason.
john1124 wrote:or there is alot of other casinos and sportsbooks out there using the Neteller excuse as a reason not to pay their patrons for some reason.Got to the have money coming in, in order to pay it out.
Sportingbet PLC Chairman Peter Dicks, 64, was detained in New York on Sept. 6 when customs officials discovered he had an outstanding warrant issued in May by Louisiana authorities that charged him with gambling by computer. He resigned as the company’s non-executive chairman after being detained. He was later released after New York Governor George Pataki declined to sign a warrant extraditing him to Louisiana.
This one didn’t pan out either and it was the cause of playtech and many others leaving the States.
Not saying that I am right, I may well be wrong.
Peter Dicks had nothing to do with sportsbetting, and the entrapment of neteller did involve sportsbetting. However, the liability of the two persons arrested is questionable, and the last thing the DOJ wants is a case tried and lost. The scare tactics work so beautifully without taking such a risk.
My point from the past, the DOJ wants nothing to do with this one as it will destroy everything they have been pushing for.
1- Decide in court what the wire act means, not good for the feds
2- Decide in court why the new law against illegal casinos without defining what one is will blow up in their face
3- Decide in court Neteller was perfectly legalThis one battle could change everything and I dont think they have the case or the willingness to go up against the legal concil these guys have now. Even if they actual were to convict they still dont change much in the industry from today, but a loss will blow the doors open. Someone want to do the ROI on this one for the DOJ?
Not to mention, that court cases are extremely expensive… whereas intimidation by the threat of force, is cheap!
